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Discussion in 'Owners Bikes' started by rajamenteng, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. rajamenteng

    rajamenteng Registered User

    After all the time considering for having hypersportbike (considering the size of the bike, i'm 187cm tall) i just knew my options are Hayabusa, ZX14R, K1300S (Honda Indonesia never officially sold the blackbird).
    Last month i got offered MY2000 UK spec Blackbird with custom paint job, mostly original 37.886 on the clock. With Honda's built quality and realibilty, and most of all the its the most comfortable riding position compared to others it's a Win-Win-Win. After a month i put 2.000km on it. Ride it everyday and everynight (haha).

    Here's what i did to the BIRD after i purchased the bike.
    - Oil change (Mobil 4T Super 20-50w);
    - stem bearing replacement;
    - front shock seal replacement (but the fork oil is not right- too soft)
    - put new tires Battlax S20 120/70-17 and 190/50-17 (i think gonna follow step down to 180/55-17 next replacement)
    - Denso IUH27D plugs (what you guys think?)
    - new pads all around using goldfren S3 (seems ok)
    - seat mod with added latex layering and traction seat cover (Pic.1)
    - coolant flush using Mercedes Benz official coolant (gonna change to Ipone Radiator Coolant soon)
    - clutch fluid flush using dot.4
    - original cans (mod)
    - rear shock 6mm Shim installed
    - 85°C fan switch (the oem was 102°C)
    - coolAir radiator fan manual overide
    - headlights led upgrade (25w each)
    - turn signal led upgrade
    - clear lens turn signals aftermarket front and rear
    - tail light led upgrade

    I know it's not a brand new bike, and i just heard that only 6 units blackbird in Indonesia, so finding experienced mechanic for blackbird is quite a challenge,and also for blackbird only spare parts blackbird is simply not ready stock.

    Here is the culprit from the bike
    - FI light is on most of the time (did the emergency wiring loom using crimping tool, but will do hard connection using solder this week)
    - corroded gas tank (remedy?)
    - fuel pump is using Honda CRV (after a short ride the bike cannot rev above 7.000 rpm and it will short of gas) - i read it is better to using suzuki swift denso fuel pump rather than oem?
    - the temp is crawling to red zone after ride 45 minute in traffic (planning to upgrade Spal 9" curved 5amp brushless fan and 4 computer fan to cooling down the oil cooler)
    - suspension is off both front and rear (what are the interchange front fork spring?)
    - recently due to open circuit wiring harness the diode is melted so do a cable from diode to neutral switch (heavy wiring harness job)
    - looking for the best phone holder.
    - and the fuel consumption is on the bad side, at 10l/100KM. (Any suggestions??)
    - cramped pegs and clip ons

    What are the best upgrades for my Bird?

    Thanks
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/SuybiVE5sH4gx63y7
     
  2. Squag1

    Squag1 Can't remember.... Club Sponsor

    Welcome.
    What a project!!!
     
  3. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Welcome.

    Don't have many members from your part of the world(y)

    The thing that caught my eye in your post was having a thermostatic switch that fires the fan at a lower temperature - wish I had thought of that, even in London traffic!!

    You are right about the loom fix...this must Ben done properly i.e. Soldered...hopefullynyhenfi lightneill,found out. If not you can access fault codes from the ecu......

    Please take a moment to look at this thread...

    https://www.superblackbird.co.uk/index.php?threads/access-to-help-and-other-areas.76633/
     
  4. Cougar377

    Cougar377 Express elevator to hell Club Sponsor


    "....hopefullynyhenfi lightneill,found out." - Did you have a fit or something...????? :eek:
     
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  5. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Er, above is what I meant to say.......

    :facepalm:
     
  6. sr71caspar

    sr71caspar B̶a̶n̶n̶e̶d̶ Club Sponsor

    That's the thing about retirees with no mates and no life............. they end up drinking alcohol to pass the time of their boring, meaningless existence. :copas:






    :D
     
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  7. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Boring?

    Meaningless?

    I'll have you know that I spent a couple of hours today insulating the new hot water supply pipe that I installed last week in the attic.

    Then I had a nap in the sofa.

    Ha!
     
  8. sr71caspar

    sr71caspar B̶a̶n̶n̶e̶d̶ Club Sponsor


    'In' the sofa? :confused:
     
  9. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Yes.

    It's dark and quit in there.

    Don't knock it until you try it.
     
  10. Me!

    Me! Utterly retired Club Sponsor

    Just how ‘quit’ is it? That said I’m with you on retirement. Looks to be 20 degrees today. I may even open the garage door. Phew
     
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  11. Lee337

    Lee337 Confused Poster Club Sponsor

    I was wondering who Nyhenfi Lightneill was and are they any good with Bird electrics?
     
  12. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    'She', not 'they'

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Lee337

    Lee337 Confused Poster Club Sponsor

    I didn't want to presume, it can be difficult to tell with these foreign sounding names (y)
     
  14. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    She is from Carlisle.
     
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  15. noobie

    noobie Clueless in most things Club Sponsor

    Hi Ridwan and welcome, can I ask as this was raised recently in another thread

    You mentioned this 85°C fan switch (the oem was 102°C) can I ask where you got that lower temp arrangement from and was it a straight swap or an adaption?
     
  16. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Don't know the size (bet it's m14 though!) but it looks like this lot can supply?? Looks like they do a number of different temperature ranges....interesting.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Stoney-Rac...4%26rvr_ts%3D5e01d14e16a0ac88f6a1dcebffa026da

    http://www.stoneyracing.co.uk/

    Despite being happily Birdless I would be interested to know how you get in with this.
     
  17. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Stoney Racing M14x1.5 Electric Radiator Fan Thermal Switch 85°C on/77°C off


    Part Number: SRU-TFS-85
    Application: Universal 12v

    Description:

    The Stoney Racing Radiator Fan Thermal Switch allows you to thermally control any aftermarket universal radiator fan. Perfect for kit cars or older vehicles that don't use electric fans as standard.

    The switch actives when the sensor reaches the "on" temperature and turns off when it drops back below the "off" temperature. With seven different temperature ranges available we have a switch available to suit the majority of vehicles that use a switch thread of M14 x 1.5. We also sell this item with an adapter to fit it into your top radiator hose in our eBay shop.

    Ideal for use with our range of high powered fans featuring sizes from 7" to 16" and motors from 120W to 220W.

    What Switch Temperature Do I Need?

    This varies from vehicle to vehicle and colder is not necessarily better as the ideal operating temperature range for an engine may be higher than our "coldest" switches would allow it to reach.

    A good rule of thumb is that the on temperature of the switch should be around 12°C to 18°C higher than the vehicles rated thermostat opening temperature i.e. the temp the thermostat begins to open at.

    So for example if your thermostat starts opening at 74°C you want an "on" temp of 86°C to 92°C so you would use the 90°C on switch. If your thermostat opens at 82°C you want an "on" temp of 94°C to 100°C so you would use the 95°C on switch.

    Thermal switches available:

    • 80°C on / 72°C off (± 3°C)
    • 85°C on / 77°C off (± 3°C)
    • 90°C on / 80°C off (± 3°C)
    • 95°C on / 85°C off (± 3°C)
    • 100°C on / 90°C off (± 3°C)
    • 105°C on / 95°C off (± 3°C)
    • 110°C on / 100°C off (± 3°C)
    Fitting

    Important: The switch must be installed in the low current side of a relay (i.e. one of the wires to pins 85/86 on a standard 4 or 5pin relay). If you are replacing an existing OEM switch it is very likely it will already be wired through a relay and our switch can use the existing wiring, but please check before fitting.

    For wiring we recommend running the fan directly from the battery via a relay and inline fuse, with the relay activated from a 12v + switched ignition source. You can also use a constant 12v source to activate the relay instead and this will allow the fans to continue running after the car is turned off until the coolant has reached the "off" temperature of the switch, as many modern cars do to aid with engine cooling after running.

    The switch should be wired into the ground wire for the low current side of the relay.

    Specification:

    • Fitment: Universal
    • Certification: Manufactured to ISO9001:2000 & ISO TS16949 standards
    • Warranty: 1 Year (UK based)
     
  18. sr71caspar

    sr71caspar B̶a̶n̶n̶e̶d̶ Club Sponsor

    This part seems the important bit-

    What Switch Temperature Do I Need?

    This varies from vehicle to vehicle and colder is not necessarily better as the ideal operating temperature range for an engine may be higher than our "coldest" switches would allow it to reach.




    Remember that FI are designed to run hot.
     
  19. andyBeaker

    andyBeaker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor


    The stuff reproduced above talks about an opening temperature being related to the thermostat opening temperature. Perhaps someone with a manual could post the parameters up?

    I agree with what you say about the FI being designed to run hot. However, mine struggled to the extent that sometimes I had to park up to stop it boiling over in heavy stop/start traffic in very hot weather although I was satisfied that the cooling system was in good shape.

    I really don't think there is a cooling issue for a Bird on the move. Perhaps it just isn't the best bike for heavy traffic.
     
  20. sr71caspar

    sr71caspar B̶a̶n̶n̶e̶d̶ Club Sponsor

    From memory, my FI gets up to about 78° then drops down to about 73°ish before rising to normal temps.
    I would say the dip in temp is the thermostat opening.
     

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