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derek kelly

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What dickhead bought kids for Christmas, a feckin Play station 1 with five games & the feckin thing doesn’t work, he’snforking out for a two storey extension to his tart’s house that he’s no claim over, hope she boots him out when it’s finished.
 

Pow-Lo

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What dickhead bought kids for Christmas, a feckin Play station 1 with five games & the feckin thing doesn’t work, he’snforking out for a two storey extension to his tart’s house that he’s no claim over, hope she boots him out when it’s finished.
Be an interesting court case if she ever did throw him out. I’m pretty sure he would be entitled to claim and he’d have a good chance if he had a half decent lawyer. If memory serves (and I stand to be corrected here), he’d be entitled to half the amount that he could prove that he’s increased the value of the property by. If he got lucky, he might be able to claim for the actual cost of the extension, too.
 

derek kelly

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Be an interesting court case if she ever did throw him out. I’m pretty sure he would be entitled to claim and he’d have a good chance if he had a half decent lawyer. If memory serves (and I stand to be corrected here), he’d be entitled to half the amount that he could prove that he’s increased the value of the property by. If he got lucky, he might be able to claim for the actual cost of the extension, too.
All she has to say is the extension was a gift & as there is no written contract I believe she would win,
 

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All she has to say is the extension was a gift & as there is no written contract I believe she would win,
I am afraid under the new(ish) rules PooPlow is correct as long as they were cohabiting in the property
Different story if they were not
 

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More importantly....a Playstation 1...???

FFS, you might as well give them a pile of used matches and call it Jenga..... What a wanker.

I've got an old Playstation 2 somewhere. They can have that for feck all if it still works.
 

derek kelly

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More importantly....a Playstation 1...???

FFS, you might as well give them a pile of used matches and call it Jenga..... What a wanker.

I've got an old Playstation 2 somewhere. They can have that for feck all if it still works.
Thanks but my daughter bought an xbox one for them & I’vena Nintendo wii that they use.
 

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I am afraid under the new(ish) rules PooPlow is correct as long as they were cohabiting in the property
Different story if they were not
I’m not even sure it’s new(ish) rules. After cohabiting for a given period (I forget how long), they’re considered common law partners and he would have a claim.
All she has to say is the extension was a gift & as there is no written contract I believe she would win,
There doesn’t have to be a written contract either. After a set period (again, I can’t remember exactly how long), a contract becomes implied, whether written or not.
 

derek kelly

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I have searched for info & there’s nothing telling me he has any claim
 

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I have searched for info & there’s nothing telling me he has any claim
Division of assets in Divorce/separation is a civil matter if it goes to court which equals lap of the gods In terms of decision making.
 

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As beaker says its a civil matter.

He actually might be protecting his interests by making the investment.

If right now he's not substantially contributed to the purchase then funding the extension may well be accepted as achieving that.

If he also contributes/pays any of the regular expenses or bills etc. then he's maybe found a way to establish his entitlement to a "share" in the property.

I'm sure I've seen something before where it was argued (successfully) that no-one would otherwise make a significant contribution if they didn't expect a benefit (a legal benefit that is!)
 

derek kelly

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My daughter was married to him for ten years, the deposit for their house was paid for by my daughter from profits from her previous houses, the mortgage & household bills came from a joint account that they both contributed to although he also used it as an account for his personal clothing allowance & to pay for his £300 sunglasses etc, when he left her he emptied the account & left her with £11 he stopped contributing to the mortgage straight away, when it came to settlement he was awarded just £8000, the house was then worth £210,000 with £80,000 still owing on mortgage.
 

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My daughter was married to him for ten years, the deposit for their house was paid for by my daughter from profits from her previous houses, the mortgage & household bills came from a joint account that they both contributed to although he also used it as an account for his personal clothing allowance & to pay for his £300 sunglasses etc, when he left her he emptied the account & left her with £11 he stopped contributing to the mortgage straight away, when it came to settlement he was awarded just £8000, the house was then worth £210,000 with £80,000 still owing on mortgage.
And yet you still let him get under your skin.
Until you you let him go and can ignore him as meaningless, he's better than you.
 

derek kelly

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And yet you still let him get under your skin.
Until you you let him go and can ignore him as meaningless, he's better than you.
He gets under my skin because I trusted him to look after my daughter & he scammed her & he swans around like he’s jack the lad & breaks his kids hearts at every opportunity, at least I’m no longer laying awake every night thinking of ways to kill him.
 
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I’m not even sure it’s new(ish) rules. After cohabiting for a given period (I forget how long), they’re considered common law partners and he would have a claim.

There doesn’t have to be a written contract either. After a set period (again, I can’t remember exactly how long), a contract becomes implied, whether written or not.
There's no such thing as a common law husband or wives, I've known of people who have lived with someone for over 20 years and when their partner passed away they had no legal claim on the property and they legally didn't have any say in funeral arrangements etc
 

derek kelly

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A case a few years back (documentary on tv) young bloke in Sheffield died without leaving a will his widow lost the house as it was claimed by the Queen’s estate, there are houses up & down the Country that fall under HM’s estate & some under the Duchy of Cornwall.
 

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There's no such thing as a common law husband or wives, I've known of people who have lived with someone for over 20 years and when their partner passed away they had no legal claim on the property and they legally didn't have any say in funeral arrangements etc
I know. That’s why I wrote ”common law partners” :tongue:

Joking aside, there was a very well publicised case (made national news) within the last few years of a gay couple that had lived together for a very long time (over 20 years rings a bell, but I forget now). One of them died and his family came in, took everything including their home and threw the other one out on the street. There was apparently nothing he could do about it.

The above notwithstanding, this case is slightly different because ‘Dickhead’ is apparently paying for the extension and the likelihood is that he’ll be able to prove it. As I wrote above, the chances are he‘d have a good shot at a claim.
 

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I know. That’s why I wrote ”common law partners” :tongue:

Joking aside, there was a very well publicised case (made national news) within the last few years of a gay couple that had lived together for a very long time (over 20 years rings a bell, but I forget now). One of them died and his family came in, took everything including their home and threw the other one out on the street. There was apparently nothing he could do about it.

The above notwithstanding, this case is slightly different because ‘Dickhead’ is apparently paying for the extension and the likelihood is that he’ll be able to prove it. As I wrote above, the chances are he‘d have a good shot at a claim.
Don’t forget though that Derek has now stopped laying awake at night thinking of ways to kill him - clearly he now knows and is biding his time (y)
 

derek kelly

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Don’t forget though that Derek has now stopped laying awake at night thinking of ways to kill him - clearly he now knows and is biding his time (y)
I have accepted that the day is coming when he turns up to pick up the kids & they tell him to fuck off, the look on his face will be reward enough.
As regards the extension if there is no written agreement between them then she could declare it a gift, according to Judge Judy anyway
 

Pow-Lo

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I have accepted that the day is coming when he turns up to pick up the kids & they tell him to fuck off, the look on his face will be reward enough.
As regards the extension if there is no written agreement between them then she could declare it a gift, according to Judge Judy anyway
The legal equivalent of the Daily Mail (albeit a lot more amusing), so must be true.
 
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