my best pal was a project manager by trade. He earned good money so I assume he was good at it. Certainly worked on some major contracts. He moved house a couple of weeks ago. Big five bedroom place that needs renovation, nothing overly big or serious, just a lot of it. He hasn't got a clue where to start. Completely overwhelmed. Spends all day making lists. The move itself was a shambles, completely disorganised. Funny old world.