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ScottyUK

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Thanks. @tu*

Being quite frank, I'm not worried about the legality.

If I'm filtering the odds of the Police [1] wanting to nick me for that offence or [2] being able to if they're stuck in the traffic I'm filtering past are so remote that I'm happy to take the chance.

I appreciate the law says it's a no no but there are extenuating circumstances : me trying not to be taken out :-0)

I've done lots of cycle racing events when all the lead cars/service cars have hazards on and the Police escort riders haven't criticised it.

As long as I won't fry the bike I'm happy.

Cheers @tu*
 

Tinytim

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Yep, just joining them together should work fine..
However.............

You are risking 3 points.. Using hazards whilst moving is a pretty massive no no !!

As I said. 8rfl@

"massive no-no my arse" Look on the motorways and it's become a "standard" action by drivers when they hit heavy traffic and want to warn peeps not to drive up their arses. Anyone getting tugged for it? Are they fook as like.

Risk yea, everything is a risk; hardly a massive risk tho.

Anyrode, ya answered what Scotty wanted. @tu*

I can't be arsed to search but there was summink on here, years ago, about being able to use/fook about with ya wiring/ hazard warning lights.

:-:
 

Jaws

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If you aint too worried about the legality why not get a headlight modulator ? WAY more effective to say the least @tu*
 

ScottyUK

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I can't be arsed to search but there was summink on here, years ago, about being able to use/fook about with ya wiring/ hazard warning lights.

I did search but didn't find anything. I did find stuff on another forum but weirdly I trust you guys more than our friends over the pond @tu*

If you aint too worried about the legality why not get a headlight modulator ? WAY more effective to say the least @tu*

I find that the sharp cut off of HIDs has a similar effect. They always seem to have a bit of a tremor to them due to the road surface .... and I'd definitely rather have HIDs than a halogen with a modulator. I ran a blue pilot bulb for a while and despite sitting directly opposite a policeman and not getting tugged, it was a pain swapping it for MOTs (my bulb hold is really tough to get in and out)

After all that argy bargy I refer you to post#14.:-0)

£32?! I found a post where a guy in the States did the same for $13! :-0)
 

Centaur

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Well done.

Try what Madlandrover suggested and if it works then spend the 13$:-0)
 

Jaws

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I find that the sharp cut off of HIDs has a similar effect. They always seem to have a bit of a tremor to them due to the road surface .... and I'd definitely rather have HIDs than a halogen with a modulator.

Shit yes, forgot you had HID's.. Sorry mate..

Okkkkkkkk.. what about a pair of spotlights on a modulator then :-0) ( determined to get someone to use one of those things and report on it LOL !!! )
 

ScottyUK

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Rule breaking? :eek:

I followed a PCSO on one of those silly three wheel motorbikes. The A12 (dual carriage way out of London) was full and hence all bikes were filtering. I caught up with the PCSO who was being extremely cautious.

We got to the tunnel sections which have double white lines and we carried on filtering, straddling and criss crossing the lines when needed to for space and safety.

If I'd been in front then I'd have moved over and let him go as I wouldn't do that in front of the Police .... but behind them seems fine :-0)
 

Tinytim

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MrPerfect said:
As I said. 8rfl@

"massive no-no my arse" Look on the motorways and it's become a "standard" action by drivers when they hit heavy traffic and want to warn peeps not to drive up their arses. Anyone getting tugged for it? Are they fook as like.
Mr Argumentativetwat said:
Just cos loads are doing it doesn't make it lawfully acceptable. I understand a fair few people exceed the speed limit nowadays too


Wheredid I say that "just cos loadsa peeps do summink that makes it lawfully acceptable"?

I'm saying they don't get a tug for that particular action, which after all, in the don't give a fook about any coont, general vehicle driving population, is quite a surprising and commendably proactive action dontcha think.
Besides, the law is a ass and it would be utterley impossible to apply on so many fronts.

Do people really break the speed limits down there? Reprehensible Southern Twats. :wank:
 

madlandrover

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Try what Madlandrover suggested and if it works then spend the 13$:-0)

I did what now...?

Personally I'd go with Jaws' suggestion of a completely separate LED system on the bike with an indicator on the dash. With a properly programmed controller you'd have a few options for strobe patterns etc, even more distinctive. But more than $13!
 

Tinytim

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Jeezus wept. He just wants all his indicators to come on at the same fekkin time.


Be bolting fekkin light bars underneath and along the nosecone next for the extra lights :bang::bang:
 

ScottyUK

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Interesting site! I may end up with strobes, two tones and flares! :-0)
 

neilminto

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Erm... might be worth a read!

Just cos loads are doing it doesn't make it lawfully acceptable. I understand a fair few people exceed the speed limit nowadays too


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Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.
Law RVLR reg 27
 

ianrobbo1

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Nope!!:dunno: if the cage drivers cant see an HID light bearing down on them, I honestly don't see how a couple of flashing amber indicator lights are going to make much if any difference!!:dunno:
 

ScottyUK

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Judging distance of a white light in your mirror is always tricky. Add in it's now dark for the commute and there's a million otjer white lights and I don't trut that a car driver will see me. Now we all ride (or should) on the basis that we're invisible to car drivers, however that doesn't mean that we should just blend in if there's somethin else we can do. Flashing orange is not what most drivers have in their mirrors so by turning them on it should hopefully get more attention.

Excluding the legality of it (actually when on i am warning vehicles behind of the hazard of queuing traffic, then why not try and make yourself more visible? :dunno:
 

ianrobbo1

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On the grounds of the HID blinding the drivers, the flashing amber lights "brightness" or lack of, compared to the HID is almost negligible, and being in close proximity of the HID light, would make it even harder to see in a cars mirror, :dunno: still cant see the benefit of travelling with them on and being unable to show following vehicles that you intend changing direction!! :dunno:

but it's up to you and good luck to getting your flashing lights sorted!! :dunno:
 
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mikeyw64

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and if you want to stay legal whilst making progress with caution through stationary or slow moving traffic without using your hazards please remember Rule 110 of the HC covers you completely

110
Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.


(but watch out for the idiots that dont understand this bit)


Oh and dont forget you can legally use your horn whilst performing the same maneuvure. Doesnt have to be a long blast just a series of brief plips. In fact with practice you can flash your lights and bip your tooter at the same time


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The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn

while stationary on the road
when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
except when another road user poses a danger.
Law CUR reg 99
 

Vinterceptor

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and if you want to stay legal whilst making progress with caution through stationary or slow moving traffic without using your hazards please remember Rule 110 of the HC covers you completely

110
Flashing headlights.


(but watch out for the idiots that dont understand this bit)


Oh and dont forget you can legally use your horn whilst performing the same maneuvure.

Think this demonstrates the correct technique for filtering with yer horn

Was filtering down the M6 today and used my hazzards...it was just like the red sea.
 
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