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Government is reviewing penalties for speeding

Wolfie

Is a lunp
RoadSafe welcomes the announcement that the Government is reviewing penalties for speeding and is looking forward to further announcements.

Adrian Walsh, Director of RoadSafe said: "Whilst we must remember that there is a tremendous amount of robust scientific evidence, that higher speeds mean more accidents, more severe accidents, and more deaths., we believe that penalties should be adjusted to the severity of the offence and penalties should always be seen to educate as well as punish"

A law abiding citizen must conform to all elements of the law including traffic law and speed limits. Penalties provide a sharp reminder of this.
Yet concern about occasional, unintended and less severe infringements resulting in the loss of a licence must be recognised and addressed.
The link between enforcement and revenue as is currently the case with safety camera partnerships should be broken. Rather than funding camera
operations as a separate entity, they should be brought within the general road safety portfolio. Instead of returning the revenue raised for the continued operation of cameras, the rules should be reviewed to make it easier for local authorities to use it much more widely to include road user education within schools.
RoadSafe believes that:

Persistent speeding offenders (perhaps with more than three speeding offences within one year or five within three years) should have to undertake a retraining course at their own expense.
A proposed change in the structure of speeding penalty points should be considered and a grading system could be adopted in accordance with varying degrees of exceeding the limit ? both fewer than 3 points for lesser infringements, and more than 3 for gross speeding.
Speed Awareness Courses, used by a small number of local authorities, offer an alterative to those who are penalised for minor infringements. Following the success of national driver improvement schemes, rapid progress should be made to rolling out speed awareness schemes in all areas.


The challenge is for speeding to be seen as equally anti social as drink driving!

Notes

1 .Speed limits are a major topic of discussion and some enforcement methods are at best misunderstood and on occasions a source of public irritation. Roadsafe believes that eliminating excessive speed will save lives and has outlined below some of the potential solutions, their benefits and the rationale behind enforcement methodologies that will significantly contribute to road safety.

2. Some recent media coverage has implied that the government should leave innocent speeding motorists alone. There is a pressing need to communicate the strong and established link between speed and crashes and collision and to be clear about what the evidence is for that link. This issue was debated at an expert meeting held on 26 Jan 2004. This policy is based on the presentations and debate at that meeting.

3. Over the last decade a substantial programme of research has examined directly the relationship between speed and accidents. These large scale studies are based on real data from real roads. Together they provide extensive and robust evidence that, in a given situation, higher speeds mean more accidents, more severe accidents, and more deaths.

A major programme of research by TRL has provided evidence of three different types on the effect of speed on crashes and collisions.

Studies of individual drivers show that when exceeding the average speed by 25% a driver is about 6 times as likely to be involved in an incident in comparison with a driver adopting the average speed. This is similar to the risk associated with alcohol at the legal limit of 80mg/100ml blood alcohol content.
Studies of road sections show that for roads of each type, the number of crashes and collisions increases with increasing average speed ? the effect varies on different road types and is strongest for the slowest roads. A ball-park figure is that each 1mph reduction in average speed is accompanied by a 5% reduction in accidents.
Before and after studies of intervention measures. Traffic calming measures (e.g. road humps and chicanes) in 20mph zones have reduced average speeds by about 10mph and resulted in a 50% reduction in collisions. Measures adopted in rural villages have reduced average speeds by about 5mph and resulted in at least 20% fewer collisions.
Research at Napier University shows that individuals are aware that speeds they normally adopt when alone are actually unsafe. For example, participants described situations in which they would slow down such as the presence of a speed camera or child in the car. This suggests that individuals know that if they see a camera they would need to slow down because they would be exceeding the limit.


Changing attitudes to speed need to relate to influences on speed:
Obligations - such as keeping appointments, picking up kids, and generally meeting the tight time schedules of modern life.
0pportunities - that allows speeding to take place, such as a fast car and a clear road.
Inclinations - performing behaviours in accordance with personal preference such as I like to speed as it feels good.
RoadSafe has developed this public policy as a contribution to reducing the casualties caused by speeding copies of this policy are available from awalsh@roadsafe.com .

Further enquiries Adrian Walsh: 02073449236
 

Pugwash

Registered User
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I saw on Top Gear how they pointed out that now they'll be able to fine you even more money before banning you.
 
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bear

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Full spleen it going to blow !!!!!!!!

I think it has been previously proved that there are about 50 people in the hate the motorised transport lobby (of which I am assuming this Roadsafe "director" is one) who are dictating all the speed limits/ treatment of road users like criminals in the UK. By trying to dress up their facist desires to tell everyone else what to do as "safety" or "saving lives" they hope to gratify their needs and try to make up for their deep seated inadequacy.

You will only have to wait long enough to find this particular brand of hypocrite getting speed camera fines fixed by their friends or "not being able to remember who was driving" when they get the NIP. I dont think you need any more proof of what the senior police and government really think of speed cameras when they waste no time in using any loop hole to dodge fines/points. They are only a revenue tool. If driving over the limit is so dangerous then a police officer should stop you immediately and correct your behaviour, but it isnt , which is why it is acceptable to let people exceed the limit and fine them later for it.

i cant think of a single time in the uk that I have seen a speed camera placed in such a way as to prevent an accident. I have more often seen them placed where conditions are such that it is either safe to exceed the limit or worse that the limit is inappropriate for the road. The rate of drink driving incresed in the UK this year over christmas, as the offenders know they can get away with it as the worst punishment they are likely to get is a speeding fine from a camera which cant tell whether they are drunk or not- hardly a contribution to road safety is it?

Sadly if anything it is worse here in Australia where the governent actually say that going 1km over the speed limit will result in an accident or death. The patently absurd premise has now completely undermined any worthwhile road safety message that may be put forward and has has resulted in the same hostility towards the police/speed cameras that you get in the UK from the very ordinary decent people who would previously have been on side with road safety.

The only ray of hope is that none of this is a motorcycle issue (otherwise you might as well forget it), it is affecting the whole population, and it is that that will eventually lead to change, but I think it will get worse before it gets better.

Ahh I feel much better now my spleen is fully vented (I know I am over here now, but I put up with this shit when I lived in the UK and put up with it from the retards here now.)


man8um to the director of roadsafe -

from
Bear,
Senior Director, RATS
(Roadsafe Are Tossers Society.)
 
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D.S.

Guest
I'm leaving the country before that's implemented!

no serious, I am :}
 
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frenchuk

Guest
I am leaving the country NOW - just gotta find my house, should be before end of year... Anyone looking for a 2 bedroom flat in NW off-central London, off-street parking, conservatory, 120 foot garden, 3.20m high ceiling... R#? R#? R#? R#? R#?
 
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D.S.

Guest
Pierre, how about a recently part-refurbished 6 bedroom masia in Catalunya suite you? I'm sure we can come to an arrangement :}
 
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XXLarge

Guest
Oh crap.

Quote:
"Together they provide extensive and robust evidence that, in a given situation, higher speeds mean more accidents, more severe accidents, and more deaths."


How can the situation be given? surely the situation includes the speed. The majority of collisions happen at very low speed because the driver is complacent. The faster you go, the harder you concentrate - especially on a bike, it's called self-preservation fer chrissakes.

:bang:

I'm going to start learning French and saving up the pennies.
 
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frenchuk

Guest
Joe I should be able to afford a castle in Catalunya with the sale of my flat!
 
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