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Crozzers

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I find that when i download music from the net and transfer them to cd, they keep skipping and jumping in my car cd player, not on my regular hi-fi though, just my car stereo.........It doesnt happen with regular cd`s, they are fine..I have tried using other discs too but the same thing happens.
I am wondering if theres a problem with my car cd player. Its beginning to really annoy me and was wondering if anybody can shed some light on this? :h
 
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BlackBirdBaz

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Crozzers said:
I find that when i download music from the net and transfer them to cd, they keep skipping and jumping in my car cd player, not on my regular hi-fi though, just my car stereo
I found a similar problem when I used CDRW CD's. However when I used CDR's they were ok !!
 
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Crozzers

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BlackBirdBaz said:
I found a similar problem when I used CDRW CD's. However when I used CDR's they were ok !!


Cheers, i`ll give the CDR`s a go as im using CDRW ones at the moment.
 
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Allan1

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Dont..

Put labels on them either, they retain heat an cause the disc to be unbalanced, this also makes em skip.

Buzz.
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
you could also, (1) fit softer springs, or (2) avoid bumps in the road and stop driving up curbs,!! :rolleyes: :}
 
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Crozzers

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ianrobbo1 said:
you could also, (1) fit softer springs, or (2) avoid bumps in the road and stop driving up curbs,!! :rolleyes: :}


Ha ha, very funny Ian........ :rolleyes:
 

derek kelly

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Allan said:
Put labels on them either, they retain heat an cause the disc to be unbalanced, this also makes em skip.





Take the skipping rope off them then, anyone unbalanced should not be allowed a rope.
 
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SMUDGER44

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HAD SAME PROBLEM

In my 2o6, tried loads of different types of cd's, did get one to be more stable than any others but bottom line is your player is proberbly passed its best ,ok it playes shop ones but none the less time for a change maby.
(have you tried putting a lense cleaner through it, this will help as well)
:beer:
regards,
smudger
 
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Mozza

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as i make a nice bit on the side doing this i can highly recommend Imation cdr's. the sound quality is belting and i have yet to have a problem with them in car cd players. but i also agree, don't bother with those crap "personalise you cd" labels. they suck mate.

also bear in mind some standard in car cd players have only the basic laser pick up. the more you spend, the better the player. ie anti skip and the usual extras.

you get good deals on imation cdr's on either ebay or i think dabs do them.

or pm me and i can send you 100 of them for 13.00 all in :} :}

cheers
Mozza
 

RHINO

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Mozza said:
as i make a nice bit on the side doing this i can highly recommend Imation cdr's. the sound quality is belting and i have yet to have a problem with them in car cd players. but i also agree, don't bother with those crap "personalise you cd" labels. they suck mate.

also bear in mind some standard in car cd players have only the basic laser pick up. the more you spend, the better the player. ie anti skip and the usual extras.

you get good deals on imation cdr's on either ebay or i think dabs do them.

or pm me and i can send you 100 of them for 13.00 all in :} :}

cheers
Mozza

LOL @ you......... Trying to make $$$$$$$ out of my Mrs indeed :rolleyes:
The CD played is a new JVC so it's not passed its best just doesn't like snide CD's playing crappy dance music.
 
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Alan M

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I`m having the same trouble as you Emma. I`m using CDR discs and they play fine in the computer, but try them in the car or a Discman or the HiFi in the house and the buggers don`t want to play :dunno:
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
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or pm me and i can send you 100 of them for 13.00 all in :} :}



I thought I was doing well getting thirty for a tenner at Morrisons :eek:
 
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CbrDavE

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I cant speak with much knowledge on this one but a mate of mine does a lot of downloading, he had same problem, it was cured by recording your CD at a "lower speed/more acurate" setting, if you can understand what he was trying to say.
 
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Mozza

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CbrDavE said:
I cant speak with much knowledge on this one but a mate of mine does a lot of downloading, he had same problem, it was cured by recording your CD at a "lower speed/more acurate" setting, if you can understand what he was trying to say.
yes mate, it all depends on what software you are using to burn your cd/ dvd's.
if you use nero for example, you can change the burn rate to whatever works for you. same with media player.
but NOOOOOOO, SUPRNOVA.ORG has been closed own, bastards:bang:
saying that people that use it are parasites and are ruining the lives of the artist !!!!! really, my arse we are, what a load of bollox, considering i am not living in a 750,000 house payed for by the muppets that pay full price for the artists cd. bring the cd's down to a price that is fair and i may consider it, ( cost's ?1 to make a cd) until then, as far as i am conserned i will continue to download them. thats what i have a good isp for.yes it is not right, but am i bothered, am i bollox. thats what it is there for.
oh well, rant over now:f

merry xmas all
Mozza.
ps Rhino, didn't know your mrs did it also m8 :xm


still, bit of competition never hurt anyone :f

cheers mates
 

DB on CBR1100XX

Official BASH referee !
You're lucky if you can get.............

..............cdrw's to play in domestic players at all. I believe a more powerful laser is needed to read/write these and are not normally found in non-pc drives.

Can I recommend Winamp for ripping/converting/burning - excellent value the pro version at some ?8 after dollar to sterling conversion - a giveaway !! v5.07 converts to MP3 and MP4...........
 

birdinflight

Registered User
I download and record on to

CDRs and use them in my DVD player or my car cd player and have never ever had a problem. Quite often record them using Windows XP record software as I often have problems with Nero and others. Never had to alter speed or anything, they record 100% excellently. My car stereo is a JVC multi disc player and is around five years old. :dunno:
 

XXrider

Registered User
Skipping in this case has a lot to do with the "burn" of a home made CD, whatever the media (CDR or CDRW).

The laser creates distortion on the metal layer that is sandwiched inside the plastic of the CD. This is what a laser will scan when you play it. If the metal is altered with a deeper, more "crisp" burn (sort of like pressing down more firmly with your pencil when you write), a laser can more easily read it (ie. in your car). If not, the laser may have difficulty picking up the data without having to re-read a section a number of times (this is the scan rate, which is used to correct for errors such as movement of the disc vs. the reading laser, distortion in the surface coating, or things like fingerprints or dust - it's refered to as "oversampling". Ever see the front of a CD player and it'll say something like "8X oversampling"? That describes how many times it'll try to scan a particular segment to obtain complete data retrieval if necessary...obviously, more is better.). If the player has enough time, it'll continue scanning a particular spot as many times as it can before it has to move on to a new section to keep data streaming steadily, thereby playing music without skipping.

A factory CD is created with an optimal "burn", using hi-end replicators that create perfect data tracks that any player can read. Your burner, however, will create an optimal burn only at its slowest speed, where the laser has time to more effectively imprint data. The faster your record speed, the less time the laser has to dwell on creating the track, and it's not as "deep" a burn...a reading CD player may have to read and re-read segments in order to get a complete data stream, and if they run out of time obtaining data (music) from a particular spot, they skip it and move on....your music skips. Better burners have more powerful lasers that can imprint effectively at high recording speeds. But they're also more expensive. Worth it? It's your choice.

CDRW's are created to be used over and over, by using a medium that can be ...well, un-burned and made to take new data over the old. To do this, however, there is a trade-off: they cannot accept as "deep" a burn, and, therefore, they are usually very difficult for a non-CDRW laser (a much more powerful laser than in a typical CD player) to read... older CD ROM drives and home CD players can't read them at all, and many new ones can only read disks that were created on the same drive. CDRW is not a good choice for use as a music CD.

CDR's are one-time disks - once you burn them, that's it. You may add data to them if there is still space on them, but data already there cannot be altered. Therefore, they can accept a deep burn more readily than CDRW, and are good for music. A good quality disk can make both a burner's and a reader's (player's) jobs easier. Cheap CDRs may have distortion in the plastic coating that makes data placement and retrieval less accurate, and the metal medium itself can be of higher or lower quality, and affect how well a "burn" can be done.

Finally, a player can buffer, to some extent, the data it's retrieving from the disk. ie. it reads ahead of the music you're hearing, and has it waiting and ready for play when it's time for that particular portion. This is good, since the player can use this "stored" data to play music for a short period (a few seconds, typically) while the laser tries to read stubborn portions of the disk. If the buffer is depleted before the laser can provide more data, your music stops. Once the data is streaming again, music starts up again. Good players have larger buffers (the one in my car is 10 seconds - pretty damned big), but typical is around 3 - 4 seconds.

So, a long winded piece there for those of you who don't understand this stuff (I had to explain it to my wife recently, so it's fresh in my mind). The advice is this:

1. Don't use CDRW's for music disks...especially when you're using a mobile player (portable CD or car stereo).

2. Use a lower burn speed on your burner to get a "better" burn. And don't forget to CLOSE a disk...don't leave it open to add files later - many players can't read disks that aren't closed.

3. Make sure your player is one capable of reading CDR and CDRW disks...it's a big selling point of present day players, so it'll be very obvious when you're shopping for one. Many older players simply can't read these disks either consistently or at all.

4. Use better quality CDRs. As mentioned, cheap ones often suffer from distortion in the optical qualities. A good player, however, can usually overcome these problems with more powerful lasers or bigger buffers.

5. If you can afford it, spend the money on a better player! The more expensive ones have higher oversampling rates, bigger read buffers, as well as shock resistant chassis and more powerful lasers.

6. And, most certainly if you can, get one that reads .mp3 disks. They never skip since they play the music file after it's loaded into the player's memory from the disk. It doesn't read from the disk during a song, just between them. Also, an .mp3 disk can hold well over 100 tracks rather than only 15-20 on a regular audio disk.

I'll shut up now. Any more would be getting too technical to be helpful.

I'm going to go make a new CD for the car. Me'n'the mrs are going to tear over to Las Vegas over the holidays and see what's going on.

Laters!

'rider
 
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Mozza

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um ? er ? wow ! :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
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