Bloody Barristers

[derek kelly]

9 months ago we sold one of our foals to a woman (Solicitor, husband’s a Barrister) Bev told her “don’t back her till next year” she ignored this, when she took delivery she locked the pony in a stable on her own then wondered why she barged when she was let out, several times she has rung complaining & each time we have offered to refund her money & bring her back, each time she has changed her mind & kept her, she entered the pony in a show & got a second.
Fast forward to this week, yesterday she messaged Bev that the pony had a sarcoid in her ear & we must have known about it & she will have to have the pony pts, Bev rang Rainbow vets (top Equine hospital in the country) & they said worst case scenario is to laser the sarcoid at a cost of £500, there is a possibility that she may get another sarcoid.
Phone just went, it was woman’s husband, “hello, I’m Mark Ford & I’m a Barrister, what are you prepared to do about this pony?” Bev said I don’t have to do anything but rather than you have her destroyed I will give you £500 & pay for her treatment” they are not happy with this, I took the phone & said “I know you’re a Barrister & used to talking over people & not listening but I suggest you listen now, do not phone my wife trying to bully her by declaring you’re a Barrister as though that carries weight to your argument”
He was a bit taken aback & started demanding vets reports on all our ponies, I told him we will release them when it goes to Court.

 

[andyBeaker]

And in tomorrow's edition of Emmerdale......

 

[derek kelly]

Update, Despite being adamant that they wanted a minimum of £1500 or they would see us in Court & in their words “it wouldn’t end well for you” the penny must have dropped that they don’t have a leg to stand on & they have accepted the £500 & we will pay for the treatment, I know we are under no obligation to buy the pony back but as we bred her we would rather this than her be destroyed.

 

[Minkey]

With his attitude he should be struck off as a barrister and you should go and get the pony back

 

[derek kelly]

His wife phoned Bev & apologised for her husband’s aggressive behaviour (despite her being of the same attitude) she says she told him he was out of order & that he was shocked at my response, she said “I don’t know what your husband said but he put him firmly in his place, he (husband) isn’t used to being out matched” I would love to see how these two get on in Court on a daily basis.

 

[Pow-Lo]

His wife phoned Bev & apologised for her husband’s aggressive behaviour (despite her being of the same attitude) she says she told him he was out of order & that he was shocked at my response, she said “I don’t know what your husband said but he put him firmly in his place, he (husband) isn’t used to being out matched” I would love to see how these two get on in Court on a daily basis.

I've seen barristers posturing way too often. It's almost like showmanship. Personally, I enjoy the confrontation in court or arbitration and these guys certainly don't like when they get their arses handed to them on a plate. It seldom happens but when it does, it's usually pretty good.

 

[Pow-Lo]

With his attitude he should be struck off as a barrister and you should go and get the pony back

On what grounds should he be struck off? He hasn't done anything wrong. Unfortunately, it's not illegal to be a dick.

 

[derek kelly]

On what grounds should he be struck off? He hasn't done anything wrong. Unfortunately, it's not illegal to be a dick.

I’m not sure, he tried using his position to try to put the frighteners on us to get money that he wasn’t entitled to, I’m sure he has violated some rule there.

 

[Pow-Lo]

I’m not sure, he tried using his position to try to put the frighteners on us to get money that he wasn’t entitled to, I’m sure he has violated some rule there.

Hearsay and your word against his. Sure, Bev was a witness but she only heard one side of the conversation. I don't disbelieve you, but that would be the likely outcome if you pursued the matter.
If it ain't written down or photographed then it didn't happen.

 

[Cougar377]

The worst job I had during my years in IT support was working for a company who sold specialist software to legal practices, etc.

Phone calls from senior partners and barristers invariably started with "I'm the senior partner/top barrister/head dick/twat with the big office/etc. at such and such and I demand that this "problem" is fixed yesterday. Most never turned on their PC from one week to the next, so had no idea how to use the software, consequently nearly all calls like this would be because their personal secretary had the temerity to take leave and the twat would have no idea how to generate paperwork for court.

They were invariably click-happy eejits and would click on anything despite being told repeatedly not to, which made trying to talk them through the menu system "entertaining", especially as they would never listen to instruction - I always put this down to their court ego as they were used to having an audience and were always on "send", never "receive".

What used to get my goat was the piss-poor PC equipment they would supply to the legal secretaries (who did all the real work) yet the unused PC and screen on their desk would be top of the range kit. We used to host quarterly meetings at our office where senior partners from our top clients would visit for the day to talk through what they wanted to see introduced into future releases of the software. Most of the time it ended up being a pissing competition based on the car that they drove to the meeting and the holidays that they'd been on or were planning. Wandering around the carpark, It used to amaze me how much they'd spend on a company car, yet issue their staff with such shit IT equipment. I even remember one of these arsholes still insisting that his staff used floppy discs for the backups, when everyone else had long ago moved to tape systems.

I've yet to come across a profession that has such a disproportionately large percentage of vacuous, egotistical, supercilious and downright thick wankers in its ranks.

 

[Pow-Lo]

I've yet to come across a profession that has such a disproportionately large percentage of vacuous, egotistical, supercilious and downright thick wankers in its ranks.

They are not thick. They are pretty far from thick, that I can assure you. These guys have a thought process that works faster than a Cray computer. However, some of them don't have the common sense they were born with.

There's a big difference between intelligence and common sense.

 

[Centaur]

Sadly common sense is everything but common.

 

[andyBeaker]

We had team that specialised in looking after barristers.

Other than those working in the arts they were the most disorganised bunch of clients we had. Not helped by the painfully slow payment of their fees.

Which was brilliant for us.

Can't say I ever met a 'thick' one though. Far from it.

If you think about it for many much of their time is spent defending the indefensible, and they have a duty to do that. Must be extremely uncomfortable at times.

 

[derek kelly]

I sat in a Courtroom a couple of years ago watching a sleazy Barrister trying to destroy a good friend & absolutely professional colleague. A long term Category A Prisoner gave some backchat so Paul (my colleague) told him to go away, the Prisoner got even more aggressive so Paul moved away & went to the Office to print out a warning on the computer, Paul was explaining the situation to the senior Officer when the prisoner burst into the Office without knocking & approached Paul with his hands raised, paul employed a perfectly legal pre-emptive strike & then took the prisoner to the floor, all standard procedure.
The Prisoner wrote to a no win no fee sleazebag who took up his case, fortunately the Prisoner lost his case however had it gone the other way we would have lost an excellent colleague & he could possibly have been jailed.
Another colleague saw the Barrister at Leeds railway station & asked him how he could sleep at night, his reply was something on the lines of “we all have to make a living”

 

[Cougar377]

They are not thick. They are pretty far from thick, that I can assure you. These guys have a thought process that works faster than a Cray computer. However, some of them don't have the common sense they were born with.

There's a big difference between intelligence and common sense.

Not in my experience.

Take the muppet who insisted that his staff use floppy discs (about 30) instead of upgrading to a tape system. I explained numerous times to this tit that there were a number of issues with his using floppies and that any one of them would cause a catastrophic loss of data to his business. His secretary, who was old enough to be his mum, got it the first time I explained it to them when I was onsite to do a server upgrade. She, in turn, explained it to him as often as she could, but it fell on deaf ears. I haven't got enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I informed this cretin that his business would be in dire straits if there was a failure.

Sure enough, one day we had a call from one of his staff, who was having trouble restoring a file from backup....one particular disc was showing a read error. I suggested that she try a random restore of something else.... same error. After 3 or 4 attempts at trying to restore random files I suggested that she DX'd the whole lot over to us to test. When they arrived I found most discs were unreadable. Long story short..... it turned out that a new office junior who was tasked with doing the 30 disc shuffle the previous eveing had left the stack of discs on a printer....printers give off a magnetic field and I reckon that killed most of the discs.

I could list numerous other utterly stupid actions and decisions that I've seen and heard of by so-called highly intelligent legal eagles during my time. Most were not the actions or decisions of people with a lack of common sense, they were made by people who were dim....pure and simple.

 

[Pow-Lo]

I sat in a Courtroom a couple of years ago watching a sleazy Barrister trying to destroy a good friend & absolutely professional colleague. A long term Category A Prisoner gave some backchat so Paul (my colleague) told him to go away, the Prisoner got even more aggressive so Paul moved away & went to the Office to print out a warning on the computer, Paul was explaining the situation to the senior Officer when the prisoner burst into the Office without knocking & approached Paul with his hands raised, paul employed a perfectly legal pre-emptive strike & then took the prisoner to the floor, all standard procedure.
The Prisoner wrote to a no win no fee sleazebag who took up his case, fortunately the Prisoner lost his case however had it gone the other way we would have lost an excellent colleague & he could possibly have been jailed.
Another colleague saw the Barrister at Leeds railway station & asked him how he could sleep at night, his reply was something on the lines of “we all have to make a living”

Sounds about right. I don’t agree with what half of them do but everyone deserves a fair trial.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Not in my experience.

Take the muppet who insisted that his staff use floppy discs (about 30) instead of upgrading to a tape system. I explained numerous times to this tit that there were a number of issues with his using floppies and that any one of them would cause a catastrophic loss of data to his business. His secretary, who was old enough to be his mum, got it the first time I explained it to them when I was onsite to do a server upgrade. She, in turn, explained it to him as often as she could, but it fell on deaf ears. I haven't got enough fingers and toes to count the number of times I informed this cretin that his business would be in dire straits if there was a failure.

Sure enough, one day we had a call from one of his staff, who was having trouble restoring a file from backup....one particular disc was showing a read error. I suggested that she try a random restore of something else.... same error. After 3 or 4 attempts at trying to restore random files I suggested that she DX'd the whole lot over to us to test. When they arrived I found most discs were unreadable. Long story short..... it turned out that a new office junior who was tasked with doing the 30 disc shuffle the previous eveing had left the stack of discs on a printer....printers give off a magnetic field and I reckon that killed most of the discs.

I could list numerous other utterly stupid actions and decisions that I've seen and heard of by so-called highly intelligent legal eagles during my time. Most were not the actions or decisions of people with a lack of common sense, they were made by people who were dim....pure and simple.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I have a fair bit of experience with these people and they’re certainly not thick. What you’re describing to me sounds like a stereo-typical ‘very senior person’ who doesn’t consider you worth listening to. That’s why he/she employs a secretary/PA and that’s their job. They’re more interested in how much money he/she’s going to make on their next big case and how big a house/car/yacht it’ll buy them.
Not thick at all, mate. Just ignorant and no common sense.

 

[slim63]

I have had experience with three Barristers

The first I thought was an aggressive prick who later was telling a female court usher dirty jokes very loudly before the court was in session & very obviously making her feel uncomfortable, this prick thought way to much of himself & as soon as the judge asked me if I had anything to say before the session started proper I sacked the twat which earned a smile & nod of understanding from the judge along with an adjournment

The second was a really scruffy & unassuming little old boy but with mind like a well honed razor who knew what to ask, when to ask it & what to leave unsaid purely on instinct it seemed, although he was well paid for his work I am forever in his debt

The third is a mate I grew up with who is now a high flying Barrister in London earning way too much for way to little actual work he still does stuff for some of the lads we grew up with who find themselves in sticky situations for a nice bottle or wine or in some cases for nothing

None of them I would class as idiots but the first had a lack of social graces & had an loudly expressed opinion of himself, everyone I spoke to later agreed that he really wasn't bothered about the outcome of the case but just wanted to put on a performance that would have adversely affected my case & would definitely have left me in deep deep shit

 

[derek kelly]

everyone deserves a fair trial.

Do they? Really? In these days of DNA evidence & cctv footage & mobile phone triangulation, sometimes it is so clear cut that a trial is a waste of time & money.

 

[derek kelly]

What about these two? Adebowale and Adebolajo?