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R2B2

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Odd question I know, but does anybody know if storage charges are VAT free? (Storage as in having personal/household items in a storage container in a wharehouse type thing).

I thought when I passed one of those Big Yellow Storage buildings the other day that I saw a sign outside which said no VAT :dunno: :dunno: :h
 
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NoBBy

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As far as I know VAT is chargeable on any service provied, however the provider has to have a turnover above ?60K

this is what the HM Customs say

What is VAT?
Value Added Tax (VAT) is a tax charged on most business transactions made in the UK or the Isle of Man.

It is also charged on goods, and some services, imported from places outside the European Union and on goods and some services coming into the UK from the other EU countries.

All goods and services that are VAT rated are called ?taxable supplies?. You must charge VAT on your taxable supplies from the date you first need to be registered. The value of these supplies is called your ?taxable turnover?.

Some examples of taxable supplies:

selling new and used goods, including hire purchase
renting and hiring out goods
using business stock for private purposes
providing a service, for example hairdressing or decorating and
charging admission to enter into buildings.
If you are VAT registered, you will charge VAT on many goods and services you supply to customers in the UK and Isle of Man.

VAT does not apply to certain services because the law says these are ?exempt? from VAT. These include loans of money, some property transactions, insurance and certain types of education and training. Supplies that are exempt from VAT do not form part of your taxable turnover.

There are three rates of VAT in the UK:

17.5% (standard-rate)
5% (reduced rate) and
0% (zero-rate).
You will probably have to register for and charge VAT if:

your taxable turnover reaches or is likely to reach a set limit, known as the VAT registration threshold
you have taken over a business as a going concern or
you acquire goods from other European Union countries.
The current VAT registration threshold is ?60,000. But you can opt to register for VAT if your taxable turnover is less than this, if what you do counts as a business for VAT purposes. Turnover is the amount of money going through the business, not just the profit
 
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R2B2

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Cheers Nobby. I note it does say "..... some services". Reading that, I would imagine it probably is Vatable nonetheless.

It is odd though..... I'm sure I saw a sign saying no Vat, but I was driving and it was only a glimpse.

Does anybody live near one of these Big Yellow Storage places?

I suppose I could always ring them and ask.......
 
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chuffmeister

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R2B2

Yep, you are right NO VAT as i was using one of these places for 12 months, but it has recently been introduced.


http://www.bigyellow.co.uk/

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R2B2

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Cheers Chuff.......... I just need to find out now if that is universal to this type of service or if Big Yellow pay it nonetheless and then just absorb it in the price charged.

I.e = An item costs ?100 + VAT, or the same item costs ?117.50 VAT free.

Reason I ask is cos I have had stuff in storage for some time now and have always been charged VAT. I'd love to discover they have been making an error :rolleyes:
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
have a look at your "rental" agreement Rob, should tell you what's what!! :dunno:
 

DB on CBR1100XX

Official BASH referee !
Rob............

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I.e = An item costs ?100 + VAT, or the same item costs ?117.50 VAT free.

This is illegal practice - you are not allowed to charge VAT if you are not VAT registered or the item/service is VAT exempt - in practice, you would probably never know unless you yourself were VAT registered and tried to claim it back !

Some companies say 'VAT paid/free' etc - All it means is a 14.9% discount[it's not 17.5% because 17.5 is 17.5% of 100 not 117.50 - the sum is ?17.50 (value of original vat element hence the discount offered) divided by 117.5 (total price) times 100% which equals 14.9% - ?17.5 discount on ?117.5 is 14.9% discount and not at all 'VAT Free'. The receipt will still show a VAT element in the final transaction. With me ?.......Good!
 
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chuffmeister

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Rob,

I am 99% sure i was paying VAT with Big Yellow when i first took out the agreement, then it was stopped.

Will try to dig out my first few bills and confirm,
 
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R2B2

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DB on CBR1100XX said:
With me ?.......Good!
Yes, Understood! Cheers DB :beer:

Yes please Chuff. Could you also look to see if they've shown an element of VAT on your invoice for one of the No VAT periods, as DB has described. When you get a convenient mo of course......... :-:
 

Punchy

Registered User
DB on CBR1100XX said:
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........ you would probably never know unless you yourself were VAT registered and tried to claim it back !.....

Thats not true DB. Unless the C+E do an audit on the accounts they do not know what you are claiming VAT back for, only the total amount of claim for the quarter. The only thing is if you make a fraudulent claim and they find out your like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest....
They do not take prisoners I have even had their bailiffs on my doorstep when they have got it wrong.... bastids them excise men are...


:eek:
 

parttimepilot

FJR and Bird Commander
Did you consider the similarity between our friend "The VAT man" and Mallard Ducks (our feathered friends)??:dunno:





























They can both stick their bills up their arse:lol: :lol:


















Sorry couldn't resist...Now back to the thread:neenaw:
 

Punchy

Registered User
parttimepilot said:
Did you consider the similarity between our friend "The VAT man" and Mallard Ducks (our feathered friends)??:dunno:
They can both stick their bills up their arse:lol: :lol:
Sorry couldn't resist...Now back to the thread:neenaw:

Until you come to deal with them mate.
They have greater powers than the police you do not feck with C+E even when you are right and they are wrong. The only time Ive had one over on the twats was when I did an internal survey of there offices at Salford.. gave me a great deal of satisfaction that job did.
 
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chuffmeister

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Rob,
Can't find any bills ( Be in the safe place, the last place I am going to look ) but I have found my original " quotation " from big yellow which clearly states Price per Sq Ft + VAT on there booklet.

HTH
 
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