97 Blackbird - Change to MOSFET regulator

[CBRDEAN0]

As per title - I have finally installed the MOSFET regulator/rectifier on my 97 Blackbird along with a YTX14-BS battery.

New voltages are :

Battery only voltage - 12.81v
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.41v @ 1000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.45v @ 2000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.46v @ 3000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.48v @ 4000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.49v @ 5000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.50v @ 6000rpm
Bike running - Main and Dip Lights on, rad fan running - 14.50v @ 7000rpm

I am much happier that the bike now charges at tickover ( 1100rpm ) and that the voltage at charge is very stable over a wide rpm range.

The new regulator/rectifier is an FH012AA and can be found on the Yamaha R1 as well as other bikes.

It barely gets warm when working ( checked over a 1 hour ride ) and it bolts in to the same mounting holes as the OEM R/R.

All in all I think its a great upgrade to the Blackbird electrical system.

 

[DEG5Y]

Did that plug straight into the loom?

 

[CBRDEAN0]

Did that plug straight into the loom?

No - there is a pair of pre-made cables available at around ?24.

One goes from the R/R to the OEM generator plug.
One goes from the R/R directly to the battery.

These are nice heavy duty cables with waterproof plugs on the ends.

The standard plug and wiring for the OEM R/R stays in the loom so you can swap back if you ever need to.

 

[DEG5Y]

The new regulator/rectifier is an FH012AA and can be found on the Yamaha R1 as well as other bikes.

Is this how you sourced it or did you get it as a kit from somewhere?

 

[CBRDEAN0]

Is this how you sourced it or did you get it as a kit from somewhere?

I looked on ebay and bought the R/R off a 2007 R1 in a breakers for ?40.

All I used the FH012AA number for was to ask the seller to confirm the part number cos Yamaha leave it on the unit.

The cables came from a company in Japan and arrived in 4 days.

 

[DEG5Y]

Now that I know I have the problem I may look at this mod. From what I've just read on the yank ebay it seems to be more than capable for the job.

@tu*

 

[CBRDEAN0]

Now that I know I have the problem I may look at this mod. From what I've just read on the yank ebay it seems to be more than capable for the job.

@tu*

Yep - if you look on the manufacturers web site (SHINDENGEN) you will see its built for 50amp charging capability.

I have a 30 amp fuse in line to the battery on mine so our charging system has this thing on about 50% capacity.

If you find an R/R you also want to look here - http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/R_R_Connectors/r_r_connectors.html

You need a part A battery loom and a Part B generator loom at 20" long for the blackbird.

With these two cables it is plug and play.

 

[Judge Dredd]

pictures please...... pretty please.

 

[Oldbull]

Nice work Deano @tu*

will be interesting to see how it pans out .. mite be worth John selling the R1 recs and looms instead of the bird specific stuff ... :dunno:

got to be a step in the right direction if its only running at half load..
keep us posted mate :bow:

 

[silverfox.xx]

Good thread, its here;

Shindengen MOSFET FH012AA

http://roadstercycle.com/Universal Mosfet FH012AA charging system upgrade.htm

From the search I did several bikers are using them, over a wide range of bikes.

 

[DEG5Y]

Good thread, its here;

Shindengen MOSFET FH012AA

http://roadstercycle.com/Universal Mosfet FH012AA charging system upgrade.htm

From the search I did several bikers are using them, over a wide range of bikes.

But like DEANO says here;

Yep - if you look on the manufacturers web site (SHINDENGEN) you will see its built for 50amp charging capability.

I have a 30 amp fuse in line to the battery on mine so our charging system has this thing on about 50% capacity.

If you find an R/R you also want to look here - http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/R_R_Connectors/r_r_connectors.html

You need a part A battery loom and a Part B generator loom at 20" long for the blackbird.

With these two cables it is plug and play.

you can actually get short looms that makes it 'plug&play' which would make it neater and easier for people with no electrical ability and for those that have but can't be arsed!

 

[DLN1965]

Very interesting

I would like a little more information on this ....It sounds tempting, especially if its able to be plug and play.....

What bits are needed ...?
What do we have to do... ?
What does all the electrical geniuses (geniui ?) think... is it a good modification ???

Mmmmm tempted !

 

[Rick448]

Looks like a worthwhile mod, If mine ever goes again i'll be looking at this. I agree it might be something John could stock, especially if they were done as P&P. For the bit extra cash it would be worth it i'm sure.

 

[CBRDEAN0]

Very interesting

I would like a little more information on this ....It sounds tempting, especially if its able to be plug and play.....

What bits are needed ...?
What do we have to do... ?
What does all the electrical geniuses (geniui ?) think... is it a good modification ???

Mmmmm tempted !

What is needed - 1 x FH012AA r/r, 1 x generator to r/r cable, 1 x battery to r/r cable

What do we have to do - Cut some of the top fin from the new r/r to clear the blackbird bodywork. Mount the new r/r in place of the old one with the same bolts. Run generator cable from r/r to generator plug, run battery cable from r/r to battery, mount the fuse holder under the seat.

I will leave the last part to any electrical geniuses - haha

 

[CBRDEAN0]

pictures please...... pretty please.

Here you go. I think it looks about as OEM as it is going to.

 

[Oldbull]

How much are the reg/recs new from the Yamaha stealers ????

do Yam have a David Silvers ??? h1d1ng2

 

[CBRDEAN0]

How much are the reg/recs new from the Yamaha stealers ????

do Yam have a David Silvers ??? h1d1ng2

NEW they are stupid money in the UK - around ?275 from Yamaha direct !!!!.

They are available in the US for around $90 + shipping.

 

[Trumpet]

John already knows about it.. The problem is, it's becoming a popular mod across many different Motorcycles, you did well to find one at that price. Generally second hand post 2007 R1 reg/recs are like rocking horse poo now.

 

[CBRDEAN0]

John already knows about it.. The problem is, it's becoming a popular mod across many different Motorcycles, you did well to find one at that price. Generally second hand post 2007 R1 reg/recs are like rocking horse poo now.

Also fitted to Kawasakis

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawa...5499626QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

[DEG5Y]

I was looking at the Kawasaki ones but I don't think they are the same although they look the same. I was looking at one off an 09 ZX6R but after I managed to find a manual online in which the wiring diagram shows an extra terminal in the output socket, I've held off

John already knows about it.. The problem is, it's becoming a popular mod across many different Motorcycles.

In that case it would be interesting to see how much he could sell them for as we could do with a UK supplier for both the R/R and the P&P wiring.