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Will it be A Russian Christmas?

slim63

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Amazing how a post about how me hearing the reality of what is happening in Ukraine from someone who has a personal family connection affected me has turned into ‘an argument’.
Ok maybe "argument" was the wrong word to use but discussion didn't fit either, you can have the poorly made point free of charge

As for the rest of your post I certainly do know my own mind and prevaricating gets you nowhere so i am sure i would do exactly as stated to the best of my ability although i am sure others less strong willed would take a different and perhaps more sensible path
 

Cougar377

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:meparto:you know me so well (y)

Absolute honesty it is exactly what I would do eg try to get the family safe then go back, as old and knackered as I am I have never run from a fight in my life and don't intend to start anytime soon
I genuinely believe defending my country come what may would be the right thing to do and put in the situation of those left in the Ukraine i couldn't live with myself if I didn't try


As for the andyBeaker / ogr1 argument i see both sides to that story ... the old boy seems to be doing the best for his remaining family as he should but also as someone with medial training he would certainly be needed back in the ukraine and we dont know if his intention is to return once the family is safe?
At the end of the day you do what's best for your family, but that also includes having a country to go back to......which obviously won't defend itself.

I hope we're never put in the same position.
 

ogr1

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It's my opinion, nothing at all personal.
I could not and would not flee, no matter
how many times I shat myself and I suspect that would be many times.
 

Cougar377

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How long before there is an "accident" at the Chernobyl site and it starts leaking radiation.?

Russian forces made a significant effort to capture it. For what purpose.? Not to keep the Ukrainians from making use of it as an improvised weapon, because it would hurt them far more and the prevailing winds mean that the radiation cloud would head west.

No, I have a horrible feeling that Putin has similar ideas as Saddam Hussein when he destroyed the oil wells and oil refineries as his army retreated .... create an environmental disaster to hurt the west while blaming Ukraine... e. g. Ukrainian artillery fire hits Chernobyl while "heroic" Russian soldiers were "defending" it.

I wouldn't put it past him.
 

Pow-Lo

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How long before there is an "accident" at the Chernobyl site and it starts leaking radiation.?

Russian forces made a significant effort to capture it. For what purpose.? Not to keep the Ukrainians from making use of it as an improvised weapon, because it would hurt them far more and the prevailing winds mean that the radiation cloud would head west.

No, I have a horrible feeling that Putin has similar ideas as Saddam Hussein when he destroyed the oil wells and oil refineries as his army retreated .... create an environmental disaster to hurt the west while blaming Ukraine... e. g. Ukrainian artillery fire hits Chernobyl while "heroic" Russian soldiers were "defending" it.

I wouldn't put it past him.
I'm beginning to think he's had a stroke or something.
 

Squag1

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Ukraine claiming that Russians have mobile crematoria in Ukraine
 

Jaws

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At least two Russian oligarch super yachts ( one being the largest privately owned in the world ) have been impounded.
One by German authorities and one by the French
Just come through on a news feed:
Russian ships are being refused docking and refuelling all over the world
 

Cougar377

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Some Russian businessman has put up a Dead or Alive reward of $1m against Putin. I'm off to give my air rifle a bit of a once over. :sniper:

FFS don't let Slim know. Bastid will beat me to it for sure.
 
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