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Stealth Rider

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Warning,Don't get caught out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sh1tehppns
Sorry for being a bit late hope no one has been caught :dunno:
 
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BlackBirdBaz

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Whoever typed that has lost the impact with piss poor spelling !!

Good old April Fools eh !
 
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dozz

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deleted due to not reading above post :blush:
 

Samster

chamon motherf*cker
Was just gonna say the spelling is hilarious! Active as of 1st April!
 

Bob Pinder

Registered User
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

This is about the tenth one I've seen today......

Most areas speed tolerances are currently + 10% + or - 2 mph

I recalibrated my own speedo recently as it was reading -6% !!

Most speedos are only vaguley accurate up to 70 mph beyond that is anyone's guess....

So to make a statement that a speed tolerance of 2mph over a fixed distance is quite frankly bollocks as most folk would be unable to achieve it!

You'd end up with 99% of all peeps who travelled this route being regularly punished and eventually banned under totting up.........I don't think so - I think this statement should have been released last Saturday morning g0551p
 
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Nick from the nick

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ok i know Jaws don't like mcn but they have an intresting loophole for speed cameras in this week not that i want to try it but it might work
 

Jaws

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Only reason I dislike MCN is cos of all the complete tosh it prints ( MCN, bikings answer in spades to the Sunday Sport ! )

So what is the useful clause then Nick ?
 
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Stealth Rider

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Bob Pinder said:
This is about the tenth one I've seen today......

Most areas speed tolerances are currently + 10% + or - 2 mph

I recalibrated my own speedo recently as it was reading -6% !!

Most speedos are only vaguley accurate up to 70 mph beyond that is anyone's guess....

So to make a statement that a speed tolerance of 2mph over a fixed distance is quite frankly bollocks as most folk would be unable to achieve it!

You'd end up with 99% of all peeps who travelled this route being regularly punished and eventually banned under totting up.........I don't think so - I think this statement should have been released last Saturday morning g0551p
Yes but Bob, think of all the revenue the government will make!!!!!! :neenaw:
 
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Stealth Rider

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Yes the spelling is incorrect but this is a timely reminder to all that the government cash cow is working overtime to rip you off of all that extra money that's in your pockets, so beware :xmAnybody who has travelled that stretch of road will know it's like walking through a branch of Jessops
 

Rolfy Dave

Been there, and had one
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Stealth Rider said:
Anybody who has travelled that stretch of road will know it's like walking through a branch of Jessops
So please could they pick up a Canon 350D for me ???

Many thanks in anticipation.:p

Rolfy
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Duck n Dive

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Jaws said:
So what is the useful clause then Nick ?
They have a "sample letter" to use when responding to a NIP.

It's based on the fact that there are still challenges in process to the "being forced to incriminate oneself".

The letter basically refers to a couple of court cases and says that you are responding to the NIP in accordance with the legal requirement to devlare who was driving.
It then makes clear that this is basically under protest and that the information supplied cannot be used in evidence in any court case as it is supplied under threat and without the administration of a caution - the relevent court case to bacik this up is given to be quoted in the letter.

Effectively it says:

1. I'm forced to tell you this under threat of prosecution so I will (but as the statement is not admissable in court there is still no admissable evidence as to who was driving so a prosecution cannot be brought against anyone - a sort of catch22).

2. A written or vebal statement cannot be presented as evidence in court unless a caution has first been given - not the case with a NIP.

The article then goes on to warn that this may not succeed in every case but does say that in cetain areas (MET I think is one) they believe that no prosecution has been continued with following such a letter.

The options for the camera partnership are to try and proceed to court in the hope you back down or send a copper around to knock on your door, give you a caution and ask for a statement....... but of course you don't actually have to say anything.....

The basic line is it's worth a try as it may well get dropped after your response to the NIP..... if it isn't, well your'e no worse off than you were before.

I'd certainly have given it a try if I'd been aware of this one when I got mine..
 
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ericonblackbird

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As one of the 'authors' of the letter, I would add to the summary above that the basis whilst dealing with UK law (section 172 Road Traffic Act in particular) is enforced by EU and International Law.

Regards
 
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