Ramadan

[andyBeaker]

I wonder how many can be bothered to read this article to the end

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33563558

 

[Jaws]

Well I read the end bit...........

 

[Pow-Lo]

With the possible exception of Buddhism (and I only say that because my wife's a Buddhist and will slap me one if I don't say it) that seems to be untrue of all of them....:dunno:

Just as a small example...SWMBO's cousin is a Yoga instructor who teaches in the evenings at various local school premises. But she can't teach Yoga classes in a Catholical School because "Yoga leads to Buddhism and that faith is at odds with the Catholical faith".

This is utter bollocks. Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a teaching.

You're right of course DK, they're the only religion that would do this sort of thing. :dunno:
Just one question, have you ever taken a look at the history of religious tolerance in this country, or more specificly, tolerance of Catholic's, who believe in the same teaching as Anglicans?
Empower yourself, with knowledge.

All Anglicans are Catholics. What I think you're referring to is ROMAN Catholics. Empower yourself with knowledge indeed, Daisy.

To my mind it is desperately sad that many focus on the bad behaviours of the minorities rather than embracing the good behaviour of the majorities.

When I come to power I am going to enforce one religion on all. This will be compromised of the good parts of many different religions. Simple really.

The basic tenant of all religions can be summed up in one simple command: "Don't be a twat." So there Andrew, put that at the top of your manifesto. Second on the list can be to fill the channel tunnel with horse shit and block our end with concrete.

I suggest there was an understanding failure on your part there ....

At no point did I say ALL Muslims were terrorists, In fact I said quite the opposite I have a couple of friends who follow that religion & they appear to be genuine peace loving folk but they do freely admit that there are those within their community who know who the radicals are & still do nothing.... not a stereotype ...FACT

Both my friends say they try to root out the evil bastards within their community but the elders stop them from doing so to the point that one is banned from his local mosque & now has to travel 5+ miles to worship instead of across the road ...FACT

Followers of Islam are causing death & destruction across the world ...FACT

I'm a tolerant person who has simply reached his limit with the few murdering scum within the Islamic religion, I don't know what the solution is but feel one needs finding soon & really don't care if anyone likes that opinion or not :-0)

Interesting. An Indian chap told me in Calcutta a couple of years ago "Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims".

 

[derek kelly]

In these days of people spouting equality, why aren't non Muslim teachers demanding three days extra leave to bring them in line with their Muslim colleagues?

 

[slim63]

I wonder how many can be bothered to read this article to the end

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33563558

I read it to the end twice & it appears to gel with the attitude of Muslim people I have been in contact with but the fact remains that it does not tackle the problem of Islamic radicals.... none of the people interviewed there were willing to stick their head above the parapet & condemn the people within their faith that are causing all the trouble!

Just my opinion but that's is what is needed, decent people of that faith to stand up & be counted in large numbers

 

[Centaur]

This is utter bollocks. Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a teaching.



All Anglicans are Catholics. What I think you're referring to is ROMAN Catholics. Empower yourself with knowledge indeed, Daisy.



The basic tenant of all religions can be summed up in one simple command: "Don't be a twat." So there Andrew, put that at the top of your manifesto. Second on the list can be to fill the channel tunnel with horse shit and block our end with concrete.

Really? I thought the word was tenet but what does an old fart like me know. :cry:

Interesting. An Indian chap told me in Calcutta a couple of years ago "Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims".

Some truth in that.

 

[Barrie]

The "Good Muslims" who preach about how peace loving Islam is, need to tell the "Bad" Muslims not the rest of the world.

 

[noobie]

Reminds me of the problem football had with hooligans in the 70's and 80's.

At some point only the majority of good ones need to stamp out the minority of bad ones. Like an alcoholic though, they need to admit first, they have a problem.

 

[andyBeaker]

It is interesting that the general view appears to be that the 'good' Muslims should sort out the base Muslims. Surely we all have the same duty?

As an aside, personally I do not care who is flying the F15s

 

[noobie]

It is interesting that the general view appears to be that the 'good' Muslims should sort out the base Muslims. Surely we all have the same duty?

We do, however as a general rule most of those who want to kill us and have left to join isis, mujahideen, Boko Haram, Al-Qaeda etc have NOT come from British integrated families but those who live in largely isolated and inclusive muslim communities and that lies a responsibilitie at their doorstep, even more given the amount of imans and mosques that seem to be openly allowing radicalisation.

 

[Jaws]

I read it to the end twice & it appears to gel with the attitude of Muslim people I have been in contact with but the fact remains that it does not tackle the problem of Islamic radicals.... none of the people interviewed there were willing to stick their head above the parapet & condemn the people within their faith that are causing all the trouble!

Just my opinion but that's is what is needed, decent people of that faith to stand up & be counted in large numbers

How very true.. I often get the feeling that 'normal' Muslims are pretty scared to say anything

 

[Pow-Lo]

How very true.. I often get the feeling that 'normal' Muslims are pretty scared to say anything

The feeling I often get is that extremist Muslims want to chop our heads off and the 'normal' Muslims want the extremist Muslims to chop our heads off.

 

[derek kelly]

It is interesting that the general view appears to be that the 'good' Muslims should sort out the base Muslims. Surely we all have the same duty?

Nail on head there Andy, we all have the same duty however it appears that it is only non Moslems trying to do anything about it.

Many Moslems came to this Country to escape the oppression of their own country, now they are here they are like children hiding behind their Mother's legs, they want the problem sorting but don't want to get involved.

Young Moslems & families are being radicallised in Mosques in every City & every town in this country yet we don't find out who they are until it is too late, all it takes is one person to speak out & name names, find out who is filling their heads with this hatred & do something about it.

I know & have known many Moslems & not just in my work capacity & I have yet to find one that I could say that I trusted.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Some truth in that.

It is indeed 'tenet', Will.I.Was. Bastard iPad auto-correct :-0)

 

[Cougar377]

This is utter bollocks. Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a teaching.

FFS.....ill considered comments like that are what start shit like this off in the first place.

There are about half a dozen countries at the last count who have Buddhism as their officially declared religion. For someone who spends a fair amount of time in the far east I'm surprised you don't know that...
Most civilised countries recognize and accept Buddhism as a religion.

How you define what is or is not a religion is dependant entirely on what beliefs or otherwise you hold or were brought up with. So in the west it is generally accepted that a religion must have a diety or "higher being" to worship. But we don't set the "gold standard" for what is or is not a religion.

Google "is Buddhism a religion" and you'll spend hours reading a vast collection of comments made by people from a range of backgrounds.

 

[Pow-Lo]

FFS.....ill considered comments like that are what start shit like this off in the first place.

There are about half a dozen countries at the last count who have Buddhism as their officially declared religion. For someone who spends a fair amount of time in the far east I'm surprised you don't know that...
Most civilised countries recognize and accept Buddhism as a religion.

How you define what is or is not a religion is dependant entirely on what beliefs or otherwise you hold or were brought up with. So in the west it is generally accepted that a religion must have a diety or "higher being" to worship. But we don't set the "gold standard" for what is or is not a religion.

Google "is Buddhism a religion" and you'll spend hours reading a vast collection of comments made by people from a range of backgrounds.

Ill considered comment, my arse. I LIVE in the Far East and I've been corrected by more Singapore Chinese than I care to remember when asking them if their religion is Buddhism; they have told me that Buddhism is a teaching not a religion and they are better placed to comment than, you, me or Google.

 

[Cougar377]

Ill considered comment, my arse. I LIVE in the Far East and I've been corrected by more Singapore Chinese than I care to remember when asking them if their religion is Buddhism; they have told me that Buddhism is a teaching not a religion and they are better placed to comment than, you, me or Google.

I LIVE in GB, it doesn't make me an expert on christianity.

Both Singapore and China (OK, the Chinese Communist Party) recognise variants of Buddhism as a religion.

p0pc0rn41

 

[Pow-Lo]

I LIVE in GB, it doesn't make me an expert on christianity.

Both Singapore and China (OK, the Chinese Communist Party) recognise variants of Buddhism as a religion.

p0pc0rn41

I can't be arsed getting into a pissing contest over something like this. That's what the locals have told me and I don't know enough (nor do I care enough) to question their views.

These are real people that have told me Buddhism is a teaching, not the internet. If you don't like it, come out here and ask a few locals for yourself. If you then feel that strongly about it, you can argue the toss with them.

 

[Crazy Train]

Definition of religion:

noun: religion

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


Buddhism is a tradition focused on personal spiritual development. Buddhists aim for a deep insight into the true nature of life and do not worship gods or deities.

And that definition almost makes me a Buddhist.

 

[Cougar377]

I can't be arsed getting into a pissing contest over something like this. That's what the locals have told me and I don't know enough (nor do I care enough) to question their views.

These are real people that have told me Buddhism is a teaching, not the internet. If you don't like it, come out here and ask a few locals for yourself. If you then feel that strongly about it, you can argue the toss with them.

I don't need to "come out here"...I'm married to a Buddhist and half her side of the family are Thai and all are Buddhists.

No need to get arsey....you started this with...

"This is utter bollocks. Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a teaching. ". c7u8

Maybe next time engage brain first, eh..? :-0)