Signed. If nothing else it will hopefully open up the debate as to how we deal with people like her after we leave the EU (and are no longer constrained by the crap that comes out of the European Court of Human Rights, et al).
Those of us who have served in NI know what terrorism and radicalisation looks like up close and how it can permeate through the generations. I remember once saying to an oppo that the only sure fire method of bringing peace to NI would be to shoot everyone over the age of 10. The shadow of the terrorist groups from both sides still haunts the north and given the present uncertainty over Brexit, they could well rear their ugly heads again in one form or another. Although the various NI terrorists were prepared to bomb and shoot to make their "point", they at least were never that committed to their cause to consider suicide bombing as a viable weapon. Islamic radicalisation is far more sophisticated and organised than what was seen in NI and has the capacity to make the IRA, etc. look like a bunch of peace protestors, in comparison.
People who are so brainwashed that they believe that their future after death can be assured through suicidal rampages or the use of suicide vests, bombed up vehicles, etc. present a far more serious problem than a shoot and scoot nutter who wants to live to fight another day. Such tactics are almost impossible to counter completely, you can only mitigate through the use of intelligence gathering and counter terrorist action.
For that reason, the prospect of Islamic extremist radicalisation on the rise in this country needs a whole different methodology to protect us. Personally, I think extremism requires extreme measures. Part of that involves how you deal with people like this woman... I think most people (including me) would happily see her lose her British citizenship. I see her as nothing less than guilty of treason and the only options should be to revoke her citizenship, or if she returns - prosecute her as a traitor.
Having said that....the big dilemma for Governments and intel agencies is that intel is a valuable commodity these days and any counter terrorist organisation that is trying to build up a picture of who the opposition are and how they operate can't afford to pass up on a possible source of information, no matter how apparently insignificant it might seem.
So do you:
- eradicate or negate the problem at source, but in doing so risk the possibility that you could be missing out on an opportunity to gather valuable intel..?
- or allow that individual to return home and then extract intel direct from them and/or place them under observation in the hope of creating links and gaining access to others who might otherwise remain partially or completely unknown to us...?
On the flip side, how much intel is enough...? How long do you let the scum operate freely before you feel you've got enough intel to act...? Sometimes I think intel gathering is the only true representation of Perpetual Motion.
Having looked upon the faces of some of the more "charming" individuals while on VCP duty, you tend to wonder...."how often are we expected to let this ladyparts through before we finally finger him..?".
Personally I can't stomach the almost inevitable likelihood of her returning to live freely, courtesy of the tax payer. But I suspect that the intel agencies will have plans for her.
One of the things that always makes me wonder - how many of those liberal lefties who are so keen to see her return, would be happy to have her move in next door.....
Those of us who have served in NI know what terrorism and radicalisation looks like up close and how it can permeate through the generations. I remember once saying to an oppo that the only sure fire method of bringing peace to NI would be to shoot everyone over the age of 10. The shadow of the terrorist groups from both sides still haunts the north and given the present uncertainty over Brexit, they could well rear their ugly heads again in one form or another. Although the various NI terrorists were prepared to bomb and shoot to make their "point", they at least were never that committed to their cause to consider suicide bombing as a viable weapon. Islamic radicalisation is far more sophisticated and organised than what was seen in NI and has the capacity to make the IRA, etc. look like a bunch of peace protestors, in comparison.
People who are so brainwashed that they believe that their future after death can be assured through suicidal rampages or the use of suicide vests, bombed up vehicles, etc. present a far more serious problem than a shoot and scoot nutter who wants to live to fight another day. Such tactics are almost impossible to counter completely, you can only mitigate through the use of intelligence gathering and counter terrorist action.
For that reason, the prospect of Islamic extremist radicalisation on the rise in this country needs a whole different methodology to protect us. Personally, I think extremism requires extreme measures. Part of that involves how you deal with people like this woman... I think most people (including me) would happily see her lose her British citizenship. I see her as nothing less than guilty of treason and the only options should be to revoke her citizenship, or if she returns - prosecute her as a traitor.
Having said that....the big dilemma for Governments and intel agencies is that intel is a valuable commodity these days and any counter terrorist organisation that is trying to build up a picture of who the opposition are and how they operate can't afford to pass up on a possible source of information, no matter how apparently insignificant it might seem.
So do you:
- eradicate or negate the problem at source, but in doing so risk the possibility that you could be missing out on an opportunity to gather valuable intel..?
- or allow that individual to return home and then extract intel direct from them and/or place them under observation in the hope of creating links and gaining access to others who might otherwise remain partially or completely unknown to us...?
On the flip side, how much intel is enough...? How long do you let the scum operate freely before you feel you've got enough intel to act...? Sometimes I think intel gathering is the only true representation of Perpetual Motion.
Having looked upon the faces of some of the more "charming" individuals while on VCP duty, you tend to wonder...."how often are we expected to let this ladyparts through before we finally finger him..?".
Personally I can't stomach the almost inevitable likelihood of her returning to live freely, courtesy of the tax payer. But I suspect that the intel agencies will have plans for her.
One of the things that always makes me wonder - how many of those liberal lefties who are so keen to see her return, would be happy to have her move in next door.....
