and this is where I do not agree at all with what is happening here. BIRD does not have any rules in place, I have asked in previous posts for someone to point me at it, I suggested we implement rules, etc..
Hi Saffiie
Fair point. As you've run forums before you will know that different forums moderate in different ways and most motorcycle forums tend to have fewer rules because the members whilst being probably more open in their opinions, tend to be self moderating and as such banning's or at least discussing them are an incredible rare thing.
So when you ask "where are the rules he's broken?" The reply appears to be the rules of common sense and reasonable behaviour.
You may say that is not acceptable but can I offer? Until Davey, we have never needed to have a plethora of rules. Until Davey we have had rascals come in and then leave and probably come back again:-0) but in all that time and until Davey, there has never been a need to flood bike forums in general but Bird more specific with tonnes of rules as the members have either known when they have gone too far or enough members have challenged the individual.
That has normally meant the unsavoury behaviour of the one, has been challenged by the many and this way rather than going all snowflake has worked and worked well for years
Now for us to ban a member, twat or not for breaking rules that doesnt exists....I have issues with that!..
I get that I do, but the option you seem to subscribe too is that the system that was worked for a motorcycle forum relatively well up until now, should now all change because Davey can't behave himself. We can't have the rule of the majority and common sense applying all the time for everyone then say for one individual "hey foul, where is the rules"
So here we have from what I have gathered as I still have no idea what race Davey is(as simply I do not care about race) that from what I have gathered has a minority complex and tries to blame us for that...ok annoying and hopefully he will rethink his ways and maybe this whole episode will make the admins rethink the policies on this forum...
Funny things forums, unless you as an individual tell people, most do not know anything about you unless you go to a meet possibly. So within that forums are great levellers. Unless you tell you could be male, wimmin, gay, straight, black, white, disabled, fully abled, rich poor and it goes on
It does not discriminate against you or your input, so when one person comes in and continually accuses the forum of being racist and it's members of being racists and even has the site owner say hey, put your message over but the way your doing it will get you in trouble, then the onus is completely on the individual.
One thing you can't say Saffie is that Davey did not receive loads of complaints in public against his postings, he did. He also received the opinion of the site owners advice of he's going to far scale it back or there could be issues and yet, Davey still choose not only to ignore them but escalate them.
My point is after all this waffle h1d1ng2 Until Davey, how we worked things out mostly worked and I would hate this site to now become laden with super sillious and unnecessary rules brought about not because the forum needed them but more one member couldn't control himself and it is Davey's actions that have brought this situation about and again he could have stopped it at any time if he chose too but he chose to escalate rather than de-escalate.
For me, as I've said before, this is an incredibly rare thing in Bird and it should be viewed as such but such is the strength of the community that as I post, over a hundred members have voted, this again highlights the strength of feeling over Davey's behaviour.
At this moment of those 101 voters 65 want him banned, suspended or his posts monitored with another 9 having him on their ignore list.
That shows I feel Davey's current behaviour is unacceptable to most members. Whatever the vote is I will respect it as that is how the site runs
I will end this rather long post, again sorry. The site is not at fault here, Davey is and he could have changed it at any single time if he had wanted, he chose not too and that is why we are voting now.