First Aid Training for Motorcyclists

[ManicMan]

Hi all.

Hope you don't mind a quick bit of (relevant) advertising.

I'm putting out a bit of an advert for a friend of mine who runs a First Aid Training Company. He's also a keen motorcyclist and had a lot of input into the First Aid aspects of Bike Safe (TVP).

I know that there are other similar courses being run at the moment. They may be run at a location that's more convenient to you. But if you're in the Berkshire area this might be of interest.

I've copied and pasted a couple of the bits of information he sent me this evening about a course he's running on 21 January 2006 in Taplow, Berkshire.

Aline Associates Emergency First Aid at the Roadside for Motorcyclists.

This course while designed primarily for motorcyclists is suitable for all road
users as it provides fun but effective training which ensures you learn the
skills needed to enable you to help save lives should you be unlucky
enough to be the first on scene at the site of a traffic accident.

This one day course covers the following -

? Accident scene assessment and management
? Primary and secondary casualty assessment
? Assessing and dealing with multiple casualties
? Recognition of mechanism of injury
? Dealing with an unconscious casualty
? Emergency resuscitation (CPR)
? Control of bleeding and treatment of shock
? Management of fractures and spinal injuries

The course lasts for a whole day and costs ?35

If anyone is interested in the course Alick can be contacted on 01628 663722 or by e-mail to awheeler@aline-associates.co.uk

Hope this is of some interest to you (and look forward to seeing any of you that do attend

)

Cheers

Manic

 

[R2B2]

Mmm - That's really made me think! I have to admit, I wouldn't really know what to do, or what not to do, if I was the only person there in the event of a biker being down , other than I know you shouldn't remove his helmet. I'm not even 100% sure if I know how to put someone in the recovery position - and how do you know if it's safe to do even that if the rider was unconscious? Shocking isn't it??

I would definitely be interested in this if there was one nearer to me....

God forbid, but if I were down, I would hope there would be someone around me who knew what to do. I would like to be confident enough, and competent enough, to be able to offer that help to someone else.

 

[ManicMan]

Hi R2B2

I know what you mean.

....other than I know you shouldn't remove his helmet.

That's another one of the areas that Alick puts straight. In some circumstances leaving the helmet on is the worst thing you can do.

I would definitely be interested in this if there was one nearer to me....

Alick will travel (and do discounts for clubs) if enough people are interested. And if he couldn't sort out the course he'd probably know someone who could.. Drop him an e-mail if you're interested.

God forbid, but if I were down, I would hope there would be someone around me who knew what to do.

I find it frightening how many "organised" rides I've been on by the likes of the IAM and ROSPA when there's never been any thought given to carrying a first aid kit, let alone having someone around who knows what to do.

Like I said, hope its of interest to someone.

Manic

 

[Bob Pinder]

Hi R2B2

I know what you mean.


That's another one of the areas that Alick puts straight. In some circumstances leaving the helmet on is the worst thing you can do.


Alick will travel (and do discounts for clubs) if enough people are interested. And if he couldn't sort out the course he'd probably know someone who could.. Drop him an e-mail if you're interested.


I find it frightening how many "organised" rides I've been on by the likes of the IAM and ROSPA when there's never been any thought given to carrying a first aid kit, let alone having someone around who knows what to do.

Like I said, hope its of interest to someone.

Manic

I do hope you haven't included me in that last paragraph!

FWIW - most Bikesafe courses are being expanded to include similar schemes - I was involved in the Hampshire pilot

 

[DB on CBR1100XX]

In some circumstances leaving the helmet on is the worst thing you can do.

I think it's probably a good time to mention, the only time YOU [a semi/untrained aider] remove a helmet is if the airway/breathing is compromised - else leave well alone.

It's better to risk a neck injury over certain death - apparently...............

 

[ManicMan]

I think it's probably a good time to mention, the only time YOU [a semi/untrained aider] remove a helmet is if the airway/breathing is compromised - else leave well alone.
[/QUOTE

Couldn't agree more - I think I was responding to R2B2's statement regarding "never" removing a helmet.

I know someone who witnessed a supposedly "qualified" first aider watch a motorcyclist gradually choke on his own vomit because they'd been told never to remove the helmet. Fortunately someone else took over and things were sorted.

 

[ManicMan]

I do hope you haven't included me in that last paragraph!

Not at all Bob - although we both know a number of instructors who haven't a clue (and no I ain't naming names!!) and haven't even considered the need for training.

Out of interest, Alick has just told me that he's developed this course in such a way that anyone who attends can also be certified as a First Aid at Work Appointed Person (at no extra cost).

FWIW - most Bikesafe courses are being expanded to include similar schemes - I was involved in the Hampshire pilot

Its good to see BikeSafe courses are being expanded to include similar training. I always found it odd that these schemes seem to follow different formats depending on where abouts in the country you are.

Here's a link to the stuff Alick wrote for the TVP scheme - http://www.bikesafe.co.uk/Bikesafe/firstaid/firstaid.html

Apparently it needs updating though as things have changed in the last couple of years.

 

[pretty blue]

First Aid

Manic - good to meet you today. The course was really excellent - informative and fun.
If any of you guys out there get the opportunity I can thoroughly recommend it. Don't forget sh1tehppns

 

[Smix]

Fantastic - brilliant idea for everyone!! I did my Motorbike First aid will the Marshalls association on the IoM for TT, but it has come in useful a number of times, even with non motorcyclists - its still first aid, and you just don't have to worry about the helmet!!! Highly recommended to anyone and everyone - pillion only people too as having two people on scene that can act as a team is very helpful. s04pb0x6 Sorry - i just think everyone should do basic first aid. Working with West Country Ambulance Service as a volunteer Responder, I've seen a number of situations that could have been better with instant first aid (and of course common sense!!)

There is just enough room on most bikes for a pair of latex gloves (for the first aid!! ) and a mask to do mouth to mouth with - both essential if you are willing to stop at a scene!!

OK - I'll stop now - just had to patch someone up in a nightclub who'd been bottled - no one else willing/able! Needed a bit of a rant/chat!!! I'll go now!!!h1d1ng2 :blush:

 

[ManicMan]

Manic - good to meet you today. The course was really excellent - informative and fun.
If any of you guys out there get the opportunity I can thoroughly recommend it. Don't forget sh1tehppns

Good to meet you too Steve.

We had been wondering how TVAM had heard about the course - you managed to piece the bits together!

We (Alick, myself and a few friends) often ride through High Wycombe - we'll keep an eye out for a Blue 'bird with some decent pipes on it from now on :bow:

Cheers

Manic

 

[Allan]

Forget carrying a first aid kit, all you need is a brooks airway ( or mask / tube) and a roll of cling film.

You can treat any injury with the latter, and if you don't believe me I'll show you.

Went on several first aid courses when I was a Police Diver as we worked in some very remote, isolated locations and had to be self sufficient, and had a fantastic input from some medics just back from the Gulf - they threw all our first aid kits out of the window and introduced us to cling film - feckin brill. :bow: (also used for nocturnal uses - you mucky people :tosser: ).

Just remember, first aid is just that - first aid. You are not a surgeon, you are simply someone willing to intervene to delay/prevent the death of an individual.

Everyone should undergo a course, its come in useful in saving the life's and limbs of my own kids on more than one occasion, so don't have tunnel vision and expect only to use it at the road side.

Buzz

 

[Smix]

Forget carrying a first aid kit, all you need is a brooks airway ( or mask / tube) and a roll of cling film.Buzz

Don't forget the gloves!!! s04pb0x6 Sad to say, but you should ALWYAS wear gloves if you are treating someone, specially if they are bleeding h1d1ng2 And they take up next to no room! Allan is ded right tho - you don't need heaps of kit to be useful. Clingfilm huh??? :blush:

 

[derek kelly]

A good thing to carry for nipping a cut together is a strong bulldog clip.