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derek kelly

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Leeds have to put up with a blind/biased/ ref & assistant, two clear handballs, two penalties denied
 

Malone

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looks like he’s protecting the player from getting hurt by that big bag of wind.
 

derek kelly

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Clearest handball ever, ref had to be blind to miss it, the assistant had a clear view of it, bad reffing has codt us at least 9 points this season
 

andyBeaker

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Clearest handball ever, ref had to be blind to miss it, the assistant had a clear view of it, bad reffing has codt us at least 9 points this season
More to the point total,p respect to the ref in the arsenal game last night for not giving a penalty when Sako deliberately threw his leg out to instigate contact. Too many of those given recently (the pundits say ‘good/clever play’, I say ‘cheating’)…Antony Gordon comes to mind.
 

derek kelly

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More to the point total,p respect to the ref in the arsenal game last night for not giving a penalty when Sako deliberately threw his leg out to instigate contact. Too many of those given recently (the pundits say ‘good/clever play’, I say ‘cheating’)…Antony Gordon comes to mind.
Don’t change the subject
 

andyBeaker

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Don’t change the subject
How is that changing the subject? Depending on which one - Both ‘penalties only in the eyes of Leeds or Arsenal supporters.

Same as Manchester United fan forums full of rose tinted views that Liverpool shouldn't have had a penalty against us on Sunday. Comical.
 

derek kelly

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How is that changing the subject? Depending on which one - Both ‘penalties only in the eyes of Leeds supporters, commentators, pundits, every viewer watching the match including Sunderland fans

Same as Manchester United fan forums full of rose tinted views that Liverpool shouldn't have had a penalty against us on Sunday. Comical.
Farke has already received four letters of apology from the referee’s union this season & is now expecting two more, poor refereeing has cost at least nine points, that would put us comfortably top, I know mistakes are made in every game but ref’s are now well paid so should be held to account for costing teams points.
As a banker what would have happened if you’d made a mistake that cost a client to lose big money?
 

andyBeaker

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Farke has already received four letters of apology from the referee’s union this season & is now expecting two more, poor refereeing has cost at least nine points, that would put us comfortably top, I know mistakes are made in every game but ref’s are now well paid so should be held to account for costing teams points.
As a banker what would have happened if you’d made a mistake that cost a client to lose big money?
That would be the recipe for the number of referees dwindling. It’s a hard enough job without every decision being scrutinised.

It happens (albeit not on this occasion), get over it.
 

derek kelly

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That would be the recipe for the number of referees dwindling. It’s a hard enough job without every decision being scrutinised.

It happens (albeit not on this occasion), get over it.
“It happens, get over it” is not good enough, we are talking about “professional” referees & “professional” assistants constantly making costly mistakes, how is it acceptable that these refs are allowed to make such costly mistakes & just say “sorry”? Other professions it would mean the sack.
 

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“It happens, get over it” is not good enough, we are talking about “professional” referees & “professional” assistants constantly making costly mistakes, how is it acceptable that these refs are allowed to make such costly mistakes & just say “sorry”? Other professions it would mean the sack.
So on that basis every time a player makes a mistake they should get sacked??

Bear in mind that many, probably most, of these ‘errors’ are subjective decisions where there is outcry by a) people who have never been near The Laws of Association Football manual (the vast majority of ‘supporters’), b) pundits, including ex players who also fall into category a), and c) professional stirrers in social media that provoke response to line their own pockets ie clickbait - often including a still picture that is never the full story and judgement cannot be made on that basis.
 
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I like the idea of sacking players.

But rather than for mistakes let's be realistic and fair.

Red Card - sacked.

:)
 

derek kelly

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So on that basis every time a player makes a mistake they should get sacked??

Bear in mind that many, probably most, of these errors are subjective decisions where there is outcry by a) people who have never been near The Laws of Association Football manual (the vast majority of ‘supporters’), b) pundits, including ex players who also fall into category a), and c) professional stirrers in social media that provoke response to line their own pockets ie clickbait - often including a still picture that is never the full story and judgement cannot be made on that basis.
Players receive bonuses & sponsorship, if they keep making mistakes they are dropped so lose out on their bonus & sponsors don’t want to pay someone to sit on their arse, refs are paid whatever so no incentive for them to perform, yes I know some get relegated but this is seldom.
There is nothing subjective about a player reaching up & knocking the ball out with his hand or as in the first shout, leaning over & knocking the ball out with his arm.
 
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