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Actually AA. That was my comment.




I suspect if you research more closely you will find that the 'winter of discontent' was when she was NOT Prime Minister!! (1978/79)

She didnt get elected until May 1979 as far as I recall

You may not have cared for her policies but at least she had balls!!:-0)

I was merely remembering the winter of discontent as an example of the unions ruling the roost. This was still the case when she took over and she sorted the wankers out!:bow:
 

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There is some bollocks being talked about on here.

Firstly the Belgrano, ( at the time an enemy warship, by the way), at sea fully armed, carrying large naval guns, I didn't give a toss which way it was headed, they can turn round you know, if we had lost her and she had got amongst the convoys, many of which were merchant ships taken up from trade, ( STUFT), then she could have wrought havoc. A decision was taken to sink her while we still could, made by Thatchers military advisors, for sound military reasons, although yes she did give the final sanction. Thank god.
Don't forget, HMS Sheffield, Ardent,Antelope, Coventry, Glamorgan to name a few.
Also the indiscriminate mining of the Islands, and the Napalm canister bombs, thankfully captured before they could be deployed. I could go on, not everything that went on down there was broadcast by the press, although god knows they did they're best to assist the enemy.
It was a dirty war, they all are.

The unions were bringing this country to its knees, the self destruct button had been pressed, and the union leaders couldn't see it, you cannot have people holding the country to ransom, which is what they tried to do. No government would stand for that....well maybe Labour would have?

As for Labour, well, they have served us well in their last term of power haven't they :wank: Iraq...Afghanistan....the national debt, wasn't it Lyam Burne who left a note at the treasury when they left saying there's no money left, then described it as a joke! I won't even discuss Brown.
And yet when the next elections come around the same old people will vote for them,"cause we always have", Christ I swear if a bloody goat was put forward to represent Labour, some would vote for it. And it would do better than the shower at the moment, Ed Balls and his wife could almost be the Kinnocks all over again.
The only seemingly decent guy on that side has seen the light and gone to work in America. Every time I see Ed Miliband I can't get Beaker out of my mind. 8rfl@
Rant over and out. w;;v
 
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There is some bollocks being talked about on here.

Firstly the Belgrano, ( at the time an enemy warship, by the way), at sea fully armed, carrying large naval guns, I didn't give a toss which way it was headed, they can turn round you know, if we had lost her and she had got amongst the convoys, many of which were merchant ships taken up from trade, ( STUFT), then she could have wrought havoc. A decision was taken to sink her while we still could, made by Thatchers military advisors, for sound military reasons, although yes she did give the final sanction. Thank god.
Don't forget, HMS Sheffield, Ardent,Antelope, Coventry, Glamorgan to name a few.
Also the indiscriminate mining of the Islands, and the Napalm canister bombs, thankfully captured before they could be deployed. I could go on, not everything that went on down there was broadcast by the press, although god knows they did they're best to assist the enemy.
It was a dirty war, they all are.

The unions were bringing this country to its knees, the self destruct button had been pressed, and the union leaders couldn't see it, you cannot have people holding the country to ransom, which is what they tried to do. No government would stand for that....well maybe Labour would have?

As for Labour, well, they have served us well in their last term of power haven't they :wank: Iraq...Afghanistan....the national debt, wasn't it Lyam Burne who left a note at the treasury when they left saying there's no money left, then described it as a joke! I won't even discuss Brown.
And yet when the next elections come around the same old people will vote for them,"cause we always have", Christ I swear if a bloody goat was put forward to represent Labour, some would vote for it. And it would do better than the shower at the moment, Ed Balls and his wife could almost be the Kinnocks all over again.
The only seemingly decent guy on that side has seen the light and gone to work in America. Every time I see Ed Miliband I can't get Beaker out of my mind. 8rfl@
Rant over and out. w;;v

Bollox indeed, and fair praise for the summary and not least some of the others who paint a balanced approach.I am seeing lots of chip on the shoulder ignorance to outright propaganda.As another commenter said " She was a legend", and another to say to take joy in her death shows them up as the malicious turds they are.

Thatcher is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!.......Enter Nigel Farage' check him out on youtube and see a passionate man trying to save britain from the Euro,,,,,, onslaught. It's your future don't ye know?g0551p
 

mick the knife

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I do like the posts which start off with "yer talking bollox, I was there, media not giving out all the facts" etc etc etc
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bunny

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thatchers passing reminds me of when jimmy savile died. . . . . . . .all the miners are celebrating
 
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gary301161

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As Britsh as India during the Raj.

Not quite right, indians wanted independance, Falklanders were and still are desperate to remain British. What about their opinions apon being invaded?. Or is that not how history is taught in Moscow?.
 

derek kelly

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Not quite right, indians wanted independance, Falklanders were and still are desperate to remain British. What about their opinions apon being invaded?. Or is that not how history is taught in Moscow?.

You mean like we want to remain British but are being taken over by Asians & Eastern Europeans?

Since when have the Government given a damn about what anybody wants?
 

4_4_2

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Shouldn't she blame the Argies for kicking off in the first place?

or possibly the french for selling the Argies excocets? ship killers to a potentially hostile nation............bit like selling Nuclear technology to Iran........(France again)
 
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gary301161

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You mean like we want to remain British but are being taken over by Asians & Eastern Europeans?

Since when have the Government given a damn about what anybody wants?

Your absolutly right, although it was Tony and Gordon who have allowed that to happen, another example of socialism in action.
 

Pow-Lo

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She gave the go ahead to murder the 323 sailors on the Belgrano.

she gave the go ahead to charge the strikers. dont forget the miner strikers where not striking for more money but to save their jobs, livelihoods and communities

read my sig.

Read the other sides stories.

research both sides.

or carry on in your blind way. the choice is yours.


Also try finding where it automatically makes you a commie if you dont like facists?

So how come you haven't had a pop at Churchill for the massacre of thousands of Germans and Japs in WW 2?

Or Comrade Blair for the death of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans?

Were they Liebour PMs by any chance?

it was outside the zone , that we set. it was sank 14 hrs after a peace treaty had been sent to her from peru, she claimed not to of seen the treaty yet others at the time claimed that they and her had seen it.

a feckin leftie dogooder and a kunt now, mind you still better than a tory

It was engaged in a war (conflict, sorry Derek) which they fuckin started and would not have hesitated to do the same to our boys had they had the opportunity.
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
So how come you haven't had a pop at Churchill for the massacre of thousands of Germans and Japs in WW 2?

Or Comrade Blair for the death of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans?

Were they Liebour PMs by any chance?



It was engaged in a war (conflict, sorry Derek) which they fuckin started and would not have hesitated to do the same to our boys had they had the opportunity.

eerrr you should do some research.

churchill was a conservative

blair was/is a war criminal over the WMD sage and the gulf war which i have stated ever since him and his buddy went in for the oil.
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
Your absolutly right, although it was Tony and Gordon who have allowed that to happen, another example of socialism in action.

immigration rules were changed in 1990 and 1994, b.lair came into power 1997.

New labour never were socialists.
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
There is some bollocks being talked about on here.

Firstly the Belgrano, ( at the time an enemy warship, by the way), at sea fully armed, carrying large naval guns, I didn't give a toss which way it was headed, they can turn round you know, if we had lost her and she had got amongst the convoys, many of which were merchant ships taken up from trade, ( STUFT), then she could have wrought havoc. A decision was taken to sink her while we still could, made by Thatchers military advisors, for sound military reasons, although yes she did give the final sanction. Thank god.
Don't forget, HMS Sheffield, Ardent,Antelope, Coventry, Glamorgan to name a few.
Also the indiscriminate mining of the Islands, and the Napalm canister bombs, thankfully captured before they could be deployed. I could go on, not everything that went on down there was broadcast by the press, although god knows they did they're best to assist the enemy.
It was a dirty war, they all are.

The unions were bringing this country to its knees, the self destruct button had been pressed, and the union leaders couldn't see it, you cannot have people holding the country to ransom, which is what they tried to do. No government would stand for that....well maybe Labour would have?

As for Labour, well, they have served us well in their last term of power haven't they :wank: Iraq...Afghanistan....the national debt, wasn't it Lyam Burne who left a note at the treasury when they left saying there's no money left, then described it as a joke! I won't even discuss Brown.
And yet when the next elections come around the same old people will vote for them,"cause we always have", Christ I swear if a bloody goat was put forward to represent Labour, some would vote for it. And it would do better than the shower at the moment, Ed Balls and his wife could almost be the Kinnocks all over again.
The only seemingly decent guy on that side has seen the light and gone to work in America. Every time I see Ed Miliband I can't get Beaker out of my mind. 8rfl@
Rant over and out. w;;v

the belgrano was outside the zone and heading away from it, is it ok to ignore the rules of conflict?? if so is then ok to support all the other war criminals

national debt if you look at other countries who suffered the same world recession the same as us some are in deeper shit than us some are growing and doing good, as i said then and say again now we should take a leaf out of the yanks book and tax all imports. buy British create Britishs jobs and safeguard the jobs we have now. but our industries were sold off the massive manufacturing base we had was closed, by thatcher and major.

Labour got many thing wrong i have never said they didnt, but the rot started with thatcher.
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
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bit like selling Nuclear technology to Iran........(France again)

Or like America training Taliban terrorists

When my father was an instructor at RAF Cranwell he used to teach Arabs & Israelis in the same classes

There is no moral high ground in any Government, they do what they do to make as much money for themselves as possible regardless of World wide consequence, Thatcher was a war mongering megalomaniac.
 

O_Ghost

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UK Manufacturing was fcuk'd way before Maggie came in - it goes back to Duncan Sandys and Dennis Healy in the 50's and 60's shafting our aviation industry (acknowledged as one of the best in the world) and unions making our car and bike industries uncompetitive [1] due to restrictive working practices and unrealistic wage demands making our products expensive to export and buy. State involvement in industry was an abject failure because anything run by commitee will not react in a nimble way and remain competitive.

Thatcher refused to continue throwing taxpayer's money away just to keep lossmaking industries afloat and part of this was bringing the Unions to heel to allow businesses the freedom to work as businesses not as moneypits. Our national problems came to a head in the late 70's with Mrs T but had their roots in the post war era onwards.

[1] Companies like Toyota were able to develop new, flexible approaches to manufacturing, reducing costs and improving quality. The UK Unions saw any such action as a direct threat to the jobs of their members and balked any idea of improvement. The net result was that everyone lost out eventually and we have NO UK car companies of any size anymore. Now Toyota is one of the top car manufacturer's in the world and employ thousands of manufacturing staff here in the UK alone.

Sorry went on a bit there! Not a simple thing is it..

J
 
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