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andyBeaker

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great news as far as I am concerned.

Parasitical organisation with zero business ethics.

I do not have a shred of sympathy for anyone who invested in this rabble.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45359395

If there are any decent people who lost their jobs I wish them well in finding new employment.
 

Stevebrooke

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I've no sympathy with companies like this but aren't all lenders the same?

If Wonga lend you £100 and want £200 back in 3 months it's a massive APR and they get criticised. If a bank or building society lends you £100k and you pay back £200k over 25 years it's a lower APR and everything's ok. At the end of the day you're still paying back double what you borrowed.
 

derek kelly

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I've no sympathy with companies like this but aren't all lenders the same?

If Wonga lend you £100 and want £200 back in 3 months it's a massive APR and they get criticised. If a bank or building society lends you £100k and you pay back £200k over 25 years it's a lower APR and everything's ok. At the end of the day you're still paying back double what you borrowed.
The difference is that because the apr is lower the banks are giving you more chance to pay it back & as people progress they often find themselves more able to make extra payment, reducing the term & final costing.
Pay day loans are a measure for desperate people who have no chance of repaying the amount.
 

andyBeaker

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I've no sympathy with companies like this but aren't all lenders the same?

If Wonga lend you £100 and want £200 back in 3 months it's a massive APR and they get criticised. If a bank or building society lends you £100k and you pay back £200k over 25 years it's a lower APR and everything's ok. At the end of the day you're still paying back double what you borrowed.

Based on that logic a £100k mortgage from wonga you would be repaying £40m + over 25 years. A slight difference!

You are right that you most likely will pay back double (at least) on a traditional mortgage if it runs to full term (many don't). The lender is committing funds for 25+ years and need a decent return; as a rule of thumb most people won't invest in a new business unless they get a 20%+ return on their investment so the bank return doesn't look so great....but the bank's investment (which is what it is) is relatively safe (secured by bricks and mortar) so a lower return is acceptable.

All things being equal inflation also erodes the value of the bank's investment over such a long period. It used to surprise me how borrowers never appreciated that a period of rampant inflation would be a good thing for them in terms of their debt.

At the end of the day, if someone wants to buy a house they can just pay cash if they don't like bank/building society deals.;)

Ps my son has just fixed at 1.5% for two years without changing lender - great deals out there!
 
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