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What would happen if the opposite was proposed?

Dangerous Brian

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I was hoping for a yes or no answer!
Well I am definitely part of the problem, a confirmed Racist.
That is because I will not apologise for the British slave trade - 50% of which was under Black control
I do not agree with economic migrants - even though I don’t care about their colour/race
I won’t give favour to ’minorities’ to balance the scales - top candidates get the job, that goes for male/female too
I will absolutely not accept that my white skin has given me privilege

There is more but as you can see I’m a complete Racist.
Like John said, good people are being forced to question what the fuck is going on and the seemingly makes them Racist.
How does making adverts disproportionately POC help stop Racism?
 

andyBeaker

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Andy the term “we” now use is Conscious and Unconscious. Basically both mean you are Racist if you are white.
Sorry I don’t agree on the second sentence. I am ‘white’, I don’t think I am racist but I am big enough to acknowledge that I have unconscious bias (Does that make me racist? Interesting question) And I believe that is in all of us, regardless of colour. I also believe that the people that won’t acknowledge that unconscious bias is there in all of us are a big part of the problem. Some want to fight, no tolerance or acceptance in any shape or form, some take a step back and understand. Unconscious bias isn’t a crime, it’s something that is in us, some Acknowledge it and use it to drive change in a positive manner.

Attitudes change. I cringe when I look back at some things I have witnessed that seemed acceptable at the time, even funny. I remember Clyde Best, one of the first black players at the top level in England, being pelted with bananas by the home supporters when I went to a game at a West Ham In the 70s. Seemed like a jolly jape at the time. Watch ‘Big Match Revisited’ that shows games from the 70s and 80s to hear the monkey noises from the crowd every time a black player got the ball. Totally acceptable at the time, nobody batted an eyelid. I remember the grief that the only two black kids in my very rough all boys comprehensive got - looking back I don’t think it was done with any particular malice but it must have been hell for them; it wouldn’t be tolerated now, and I would like to think that the majority of today’s kids wouldn’t stand by and watch it happen.

Happily I believe each passing generation is generally becoming more accepting and inclusive. - my generation is more so than the one before me, and my son’s generation is definitely more so than mine. Hopefully my grandkids will raise the bar again.
 

Cougar377

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We should be less concerned with issues of colour and sexuality and more concerned with addressing the problems of prejudice - because that's the biggest problem we face in today's society - prejudice ..... whether it's because of age, skin colour, nationality, belief, sexuality, size, class, work background, physical disabilities, mental health, regional origins, accent, hair colour, wealth status, etc, etc, etc. the list is almost endless.

If you want to live in an "equal" society (or as close as we'll ever come to one) then we need to knock the exclusive focus on racism and sexuality on the head (subjects which receive a ridiculously disproportionate amount of attention in comparison to the other minority groups that I mentioned earlier) and start looking at the wider picture. It's utterly incomprehensible to me that those two problems should be accorded "preferential" treatment and dealt with in isolation when there are so many people in our society - all minorities in their own right - who deserve better from us.

The issues of racism and sexuality have been hijacked by celebrities and political agitators because they are "trendy", emotive subjects. Weaponised, along with history, against the white public for nefarious means. Why is it that so few of those celebrities who are so quick to lecture us incessantly on either subject have bothered with the many other prejudices that many suffer in life...?

Beating ordinary everyday folk over the head with their own history in an effort to illicit national shame is pointless, counterproductive and a form of prejudice in it's own right.

"White privilege"...??? How ironic that phrase is. As racist and prejudice as any I've ever heard....not to mention fundamentally wrong. Look back over the history of this country and tell me about the "white privilege" that the vast majority of the population "enjoyed" over the centuries.
 
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