What is happening in schools?

[derek kelly]

Bev went to pick the Grandkids up from school, Joe’s teacher came over to speak to Bev, the conversation went like this,
“I’ve had to have words with Joe today”
“Why”
“Because another boy dragged him round by the hood of his coat so Joe did the same to him but as his coat was zipped up he cut his chin”
“That will be our fault, we have told our Grandkids the same as we told our kids, if someone hits you then hit them back harder, by the way did you have words with the other boy?”
“Er, no, he was too upset, maybe we should put this down as six of one & half a dozen of the other”
“No, we’ll put it down as 100% the other kid & hope he’s learned his lesson, we do not have victims in our family, nor do we have bullies”
The teacher didn’t look impressed.

 

[ogr1]

Bev went to pick the Grandkids up from school, Joe’s teacher came over to speak to Bev, the conversation went like this,
“I’ve had to have words with Joe today”
“Why”
“Because another boy dragged him round by the hood of his coat so Joe did the same to him but as his coat was zipped up he cut his chin”
“That will be our fault, we have told our Grandkids the same as we told our kids, if someone hits you then hit them back harder, by the way did you have words with the other boy?”
“Er, no, he was too upset, maybe we should put this down as six of one & half a dozen of the other”
“No, we’ll put it down as 100% the other kid & hope he’s learned his lesson, we do not have victims in our family, nor do we have bullies”
The teacher didn’t look impressed.

You forgot the narwhal tusk and fire extinguisher.

 

[Squag1]

Told my son same as he joined a new school when we moved. He was about seven, previous school was mixed.

He came home to tell me he did just that, but he was very upset. He said the guy he sorted was a really nice kid.

I don't think he had any trouble after that though.

 

[Cougar377]

When the elder of my two younger sisters hit secondary school it was "my big brother will belt your big brother" and "my big brother is bigger than your big brother".

After a few unexpected playground "incidents" I decided for the sake of my health that I'd better teach her how to punch. The first lad that she belted went down like the proverbial bag of shite, word got around pretty quick and she was fine after that.

Lesson learned, the following year before she started secondary, I read the riot act to the next youngest and taught her the same drills. Job done and my last year at school was pain free.

 

[Jaws]

Darrell who was quite a small child ( indeed, only 5' 2" or there about now ) was told if there is more than one or the person was older or bigger than him, pick up something and get busy

One day a very irate dad knocked on the door with a couple of lads about 10 and 12

Your son Darrell ?

Yesssss...

Well he beat up my two boys and then jumped up and down on their bikes..

DARRELL !!!! GET DOWN HERE

Darrell came down stair looking sheepish......

Before I could say a word Mr Angry turned to his boys and said 'Is this the boy?'

Yes dad..

At which point he slapped both boys legs saying, 'you ever embarrass me again and you will be grounded for life !'
Looked at me, apologised, and left

Darrell was 7 !!!

 

[derek kelly]

Darrell who was quite a small child ( indeed, only 5' 2" or there about now ) was told if there is more than one or the person was older or bigger than him, pick up something and get busy

One day a very irate dad knocked on the door with a couple of lads about 10 and 12

Your son Darrell ?

Yesssss...

Well he beat up my two boys and then jumped up and down on their bikes..

DARRELL !!!! GET DOWN HERE

Darrell came down stair looking sheepish......

Before I could say a word Mr Angry turned to his boys and said 'Is this the boy?'

Yes dad..

At which point he slapped both boys legs saying, 'you ever embarrass me again and you will be grounded for life !'
Looked at me, apologised, and left

Darrell was 7 !!!

similar thing with my youngest daughter, knock on the door, Bev went to answer, guy stood there with his son who was in the year above my eldest,
“Your daughter has attacked my son & made him cry”
SARAH! Eldest comes down.
“Not her dad, the other one”
“EMMA!”
“Did you attack this boy?”
“Yes, he stamped on a frog & squashed it”
The guy looked ashamedly at his son that had been beaten up by a girl three years younger than him, whacked him round the head & led him home.

 

[slim63]

When my twins were about 8 both came home crying & with chewing gum in their hair, after a while we found out a new kid at the school had sat behind them in class & stuck the gum in their long hair, when they complained he had slapped both of them & the teacher did bugger all except separate them

My dander was up so I shot round to the kids house only to be confronted by the brat's dad an arrogant sneering bodybuilder type who obviously thought his kid could do what he wanted & was expecting me to be intimidated by his size (no chance!) ...... a finger in his eye socket for a fish around while trying to rip his balls off with the other hand got the message across
I told him every time his brat did something to any of my kids I would be back to do it to him !

Funnily enough the twins had no bother during the rest of their schooling

The eldest girl never had problems after the first few days at high school I'd been taking her training for a few years, she laid out a pair of bullies in the first week, one of them twice

 

[Vinterceptor]

Going off on a slightly different angle. Don't know why anyone would even become a teacher these days apart from the short hours, long holidays and decent money. Even so I still think the negatives outweigh the positives. It must be very tough to control their anger at times.
My daughter in law is a high school teacher and she loves the job, she even goes on free(ish) skiing holidays from time to time. Granted they are mostly well behaved kids from northern families

 

[Lee337]

When I started secondary school, my dad told me the usual, 'the bigger they are, the harder they fall' when I came home one day crying (I was 11).

Put this into practice when one lad in my year (still remember his name after nearly 40 years) smacked me round the back of the head & pushed me into the side of a locker. As I had a text book in my hand, I belted him one & broke his nose.

From that day until I left school, I was regularly bullied, beat & punished by him & his mates on a weekly basis. If & when I retaliated, I was punished by the teachers for 'not walking away'. I was branded a trouble maker at school & ridiculed by my dad for not standing up for myself.

Made my entire school life a misery.

So while I agree in theory that the best thing is to put bullies in their place early on, that only works if you have the backing of your family & teachers. If you don't it just escalates the problems & can have lasting effects.

I have a 18 year old niece who had a similar problem. She was always tall for her age, being nearly 5'10" when she was 13. She was constantly ganged up on and bullied to the extent she was moved from school to school including a special school for disruptive children. She was seen as the problem because she couldn't/wouldn't walk away. The teachers solution was not to address the bullying in any of the schools but to just remove what they saw as the focus of attention.

She's now having to play catch-up at college & guess what, the bullying she was subjected to stopped when she left senior school.

 

[Me!]

When I started secondary school, my dad told me the usual, 'the bigger they are, the harder they fall' when I came home one day crying (I was 11).

Put this into practice when one lad in my year (still remember his name after nearly 40 years) smacked me round the back of the head & pushed me into the side of a locker. As I had a text book in my hand, I belted him one & broke his nose.

From that day until I left school, I was regularly bullied, beat & punished by him & his mates on a weekly basis. If & when I retaliated, I was punished by the teachers for 'not walking away'. I was branded a trouble maker at school & ridiculed by my dad for not standing up for myself.

Made my entire school life a misery.

So while I agree in theory that the best thing is to put bullies in their place early on, that only works if you have the backing of your family & teachers. If you don't it just escalates the problems & can have lasting effects.

I have a 18 year old niece who had a similar problem. She was always tall for her age, being nearly 5'10" when she was 13. She was constantly ganged up on and bullied to the extent she was moved from school to school including a special school for disruptive children. She was seen as the problem because she couldn't/wouldn't walk away. The teachers solution was not to address the bullying in any of the schools but to just remove what they saw as the focus of attention.

She's now having to play catch-up at college & guess what, the bullying she was subjected to stopped when she left senior school.

A sad tale that fella, a sad tale indeed.









Was Powlo involved ?

 

[Lee337]

A sad tale that fella, a sad tale indeed.


Was Powlo involved ?

Don't recall the name but who knows?

 

[slim63]

When I started secondary school, my dad told me the usual, 'the bigger they are, the harder they fall' when I came home one day crying (I was 11).

Put this into practice when one lad in my year (still remember his name after nearly 40 years) smacked me round the back of the head & pushed me into the side of a locker. As I had a text book in my hand, I belted him one & broke his nose.

From that day until I left school, I was regularly bullied, beat & punished by him & his mates on a weekly basis. If & when I retaliated, I was punished by the teachers for 'not walking away'. I was branded a trouble maker at school & ridiculed by my dad for not standing up for myself.

Made my entire school life a misery.

So while I agree in theory that the best thing is to put bullies in their place early on, that only works if you have the backing of your family & teachers. If you don't it just escalates the problems & can have lasting effects.

I have a 18 year old niece who had a similar problem. She was always tall for her age, being nearly 5'10" when she was 13. She was constantly ganged up on and bullied to the extent she was moved from school to school including a special school for disruptive children. She was seen as the problem because she couldn't/wouldn't walk away. The teachers solution was not to address the bullying in any of the schools but to just remove what they saw as the focus of attention.

She's now having to play catch-up at college & guess what, the bullying she was subjected to stopped when she left senior school.

I too was bullied up to the age of around 13 when something clicked & I beat the shite out of one of my tormentors, that wasn't the end as a gang of four gave me a good kicking later on in the week, after going home battered & bruised my granddad finally got angry & dragged me round to each of their houses where I beat the shite out of each one of them in turn, nobody from their families said a word which if you knew my granddad wouldn't surprise you one bit A few more scuffles ensued (none of them my making) but I'd learned the lesson that bullies back down if you stand up to them & if they don't its not going to hurt any worse than it would anyway

The only thing the old boy ever said on the subject was "don't back down but never become a bully or you will deal with me" sage advice I have tried to live by ever since