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[Pow-Lo]

Based on that lot it costs you less to run your mutt than it did for our moggie.
we had insurance for a while but went freestyle…despite bills well over a grand in his last couple of years we were still well in pocket compared to paying insurance premiums. Food was between £30 and £40 per month (bulk buying on interwebs) and Cattery about £18 a day.

Pet insurance is similar to human health insurance..it generally doesn’t cover long running conditions…..buyer beware!

We pay £28/month to insure Twatbag with a company called Scratch & Patch. Pet Plan wanted over £180 for the same level of cover! The insurance usually only precludes existing conditions when going to a new company. If Gia comes down with a long term illness, she stays covered providing we stay with the same company.

Talking of private health, the BUPA policy provided by my employers covers existing and/or previous conditions. That’s quite unusual and the first time I’ve heard of it.

The preferred kennel is £15/day in summer, £16/day in winter (extra £1 for heating) and the alternative choice is £18.50.

What were you feeding George, caviar? Gia’s food is expensive by doggie standards; one is £75 for a 12kg bag and the other is £50 for the same amount and she’s on 250g a day of each.

 

[andyBeaker]

We pay £28/month to insure Twatbag with a company called Scratch & Patch. Pet Plan wanted over £180 for the same level of cover! The insurance usually only precludes existing conditions when going to a new company. If Gia comes down with a long term illness, she stays covered providing we stay with the same company.

Talking of private health, the BUPA policy provided by my employers covers existing and/or previous conditions. That’s quite unusual and the first time I’ve heard of it.

The preferred kennel is £15/day in summer, £16/day in winter (extra £1 for heating) and the alternative choice is £18.50.

What were you feeding George, caviar? Gia’s food is expensive by doggie standards; one is £75 for a 12kg bag and the other is £50 for the same amount and she’s on 250g a day of each.

Sorry, I probably didn’t explain it well….a new condition will be covered but if long term treatment is needed rather than a short term fix it may not be covered, often the number of treatments/consultations per ailment is specified in the policy.

George was a fussy eater and woukd only eat a specific brand of wet food plus biscuits…and fresh chicken, fish, cheese…..and would happily down all the juice left over from roasting a chicken in one

 

[Cougar377]

Sorry, I probably didn’t explain it well….a new condition will be covered but if long term treatment is needed rather than a short term fix it may not be covered, often the number of treatments/consultations per ailment is specified in the policy.

George was a fussy eater and woukd only eat a specific brand of wet food plus biscuits…and fresh chicken, fish, cheese…..and would happily down all the juice left over from roasting a chicken in one

Most insurance companies will continue to cover the treatment into the next year..... IF you can afford the hike in premium.

 

[Jaws]

with cats you can boot them out for a couple of days if you go away or, more importantly ,

I am guessing this is tongue in cheek .. 'Least I really hope it was !

 

[derek kelly]

When we lived in Ossett, there was a couple who had two cats, the cats used to spend most of their time shitting & pissing in other people’s gardens, I know a couple of neighbours used to leave food out for them, one of the cats got attacked by a dog (luckily it wasn’t seriously hurt,) the girl who rescued the cat from the dog took it to it’s home & knocked on the door, no answer so they kept trying, eventually a neighbour told her they’d gone on holiday, the’d been away 9 days & had 6 more to go, the neighbour didn’t even know they had cats

 

[andyBeaker]

I am guessing this is tongue in cheek .. 'Least I really hope it was !

Not at all…..couple of days out in the garden being fed by neighbours. Obviously not in terrible weather.

 

[Jaws]

Not at all…..couple of days out in the garden being fed by neighbours. Obviously not in terrible weather.

Be honest with you, I am pretty disgusted.. We have had cats crap in our garden over the years,...... lets just say they got new owners. well out the area
Not one of our dogs ever crapped in the garden.. We have always had kids, grandkids and great grandkids playing out there and do not want animal faeces where they play

I am sure you would not be too happy if someone let their dog crap out side you back door.. Why would you think it is ok to let a cat do it ?????

 

[andyBeaker]

Be honest with you, I am pretty disgusted.. We have had cats crap in our garden over the years,...... lets just say they got new owners. well out the area
Not one of our dogs ever crapped in the garden.. We have always had kids, grandkids and great grandkids playing out there and do not want animal faeces where they play

I am sure you would not be too happy if someone let their dog crap out side you back door.. Why would you think it is ok to let a cat do it ?????

Eh?

I was talking about leaving the cat outside - hardly unusual - and you are accusing George of crapping in other peoples gardens.

Thats a bit of a leap!

 

[ogr1]

Cats do what cats do...Poo.

 

[Jaws]

Eh?

I was talking about leaving the cat outside - hardly unusual - and you are accusing George of crapping in other peoples gardens.

Thats a bit of a leap!

Hate to burst your bubble Andy, but you are not the only cat owner in the world.. But yes, chances are if you left your cat out side for a couple of days it would crap in someone elses garden

 

[Cougar377]

I can't say I'm too impressed with chucking the cat out while you bugger off for a couple of days. Cats can suffer from anxiety separation just like dogs. Why have a pet and then abandon it for a few days when it suits you.?

 

[andyBeaker]

I can't say I'm too impressed with chucking the cat out while you bugger off for a couple of days. Cats can suffer from anxiety separation just like dogs. Why have a pet and then abandon it for a few days when it suits you.?

Yup, I was a terrible owner, surprised the RSPCA weren’t round every five minutes.

 

[andyBeaker]

Hate to burst your bubble Andy, but you are not the only cat owner in the world.. But yes, chances are if you left your cat out side for a couple of days it would crap in someone elses garden

I fail to see a connection between leaving a cat outside for a couple of days and crapping in other peoples gardens. If a cat is going to crap in someone else’s garden they are going to do it. Our cats always had indoor litter trays and a sandpit in the garden. The indoor trays were rarely used, very occasionally at night or during illness. The sandpits were used a lot, probably by other moggies as well Judging by what we found in them.

Now we are catless we occasionally get cats or foxes crapping in the flower beds. It’s not the end of the world for us.

 

[Jaws]

Now we are catless we occasionally get cats or foxes crapping in the flower beds. It’s not the end of the world for us.

Maybe not to you but to a lot of people it is not acceptable to have to clear up mess left by some ones pet
I will ask again, would you consider it acceptable if someone allowed their dog to crap in your back garden ?

 

[Duck n Dive]

At one point we used to have three cats.

We tried to ensure that they only crapped where we'd made arrangements for them.
Realistically of course it's in the nature of cats to crap where they choose.

Dogs are the same.

The difference is that dogs are usually not free to roam so are less likely to crap on the neighbours garden.

All animals are the same when it comes to taking a dump, they generally do it when the need arises - we have a riding stables across the road!!

On the subject of going away, afraid I'd disagree with beaker.

Other than going out for the day we'd never leave them to roam/fend for themselves.

We either enlisted a neighbour to feed and let them in at night or boarded them.
When we used to go away camping/caravaning it cost more per night to board the three cats than it did for our campsite!!

 

[Duck n Dive]

I'm not taking a dog vs cat position.

We never had dogs because we decided with both of us working we couldn't ensure it's adequate welfare - didn't think it fair to leave a dog on it's own all day.
Not because we didn't like them.

On the doggy front we have a neighbour with a German Shepherd and a cat.

The dog is very well trained/behaved. Makes no noise other than the odd quiet "gruff" if it's in the garden and hears you moving - say hi to it and it settles down.

The cat frequently visits us as it gets fussed over. We asked them if they were OK with this & they are.

In contrast two doors down they have a dog which we rarely see out, they both work and the dog goes mad yapping and running up and down the front window when anyone goes past, regardless of if they're in or out.

Another near neighbour in the next street seems to think it's fun to constantly leave the dog in the back garden an encourage it to bark all the time. Any time it's playing they get it to bark, the more it does the more they reward it.

 

[andyBeaker]

Maybe not to you but to a lot of people it is not acceptable to have to clear up mess left by some ones pet
I will ask again, would you consider it acceptable if someone allowed their dog to crap in your back garden ?

I am not taking a dog v cat position Either. Of course nobody wants crap in their garden. But the reality is if you have a garden then that’s part of it,same as having fox poo or bird droppings.

We all have ‘crap’ to deal with in life. For three years I lived in a terraced house next to,a,daschund that yapped non-stop at all hours. I spent many, many hours clearing dog turds off municipal,football pitches when I was running a youth club . I really didn’t like it, particularly as dog poo is extremely dangerous to youngsters.

Doesn’t mean that I disliked dogs, it’s a dog being a dog. Same way that cats wander, it’s what they do. And they both give enormous pleasure to many people.

I could have happily punched the lights out of the daschund owner on more than one occasion…..his way of dealing with the crap in his back garden (he never, ever walked the poor,thing) was by scooping it up in a coal shovel and lobbing over the neighbours fences

 

[ogr1]

There is local weirdo around us, he or his
daughter run they're feckin horse about and that shits everywhere, not funny when
negotiating giant turd roundabouts on the
bike....Twat.

 

[Cougar377]

We have 2 cats which we've had since they were kittens and 1 cat which was a stray which adopted us and is now a full time member of the family.
The two kittens were trained to use a litter tray and still do. They even come in to use it and then go back out. The stray took to the litter tray slowly, but now uses it almost as much as the other two. All three cats are kept in at night (cats get run over a lot round our area) , which has helped to get them used to the idea of using the tray by default.

We have a pit at the bottom of garden that is full of sand and compost, we made that so that the neighbours cats would use it... and they do. All three of ours will occasionally use it too.

 

[Jaws]

There is local weirdo around us, he or his
daughter run they're feckin horse about and that shits everywhere, not funny when
negotiating giant turd roundabouts on the
bike....Twat.

But by Andy's logic perfectly acceptable

We all have ‘crap’ to deal with in life. For three years I lived in a terraced house next to,a,daschund that yapped non-stop at all hours. I spent many, many hours clearing dog turds off municipal,football pitches when I was running a youth club . I really didn’t like it, particularly as dog poo is extremely dangerous to youngsters.

And yet cat shit ( which absolutely stinks ) is ok ?I could not get much further in to a rural setting living as I do 75 yds from the forest, but have never seen a fox on the entire estate.
Badgers, yes, various deer yes, but never a fox even when we used to keep chckens

No, I am afraid anyone who lets their pet crap in aomeone elses garden is either some sort of pervert, a sociopath ( as in with zero thought for other ) or is very deluded thinking it is acceptable

I am not taking a dog v cat position Either.

Just answer my question Andy. If a dog is let loose to crap in your garden is that acceptable or would you remonstrate with the owner and ask them to clear it up ?
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