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Top Tip for new Bird owners.

Discussion in 'Top tips and tricks' started by ianrobbo1, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. ianrobbo1

    ianrobbo1 good looking AND modest Club Sponsor

  2. crj0007

    crj0007 Well-Known Member Club Sponsor

  3. DLN1965

    DLN1965 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Club Sponsor

    Behind the seat under the rear cowl
    The box type of thing with a bunch of wires going in and out in big bundles
     
  4. CBRDEAN0

    CBRDEAN0 Registered User Read Only

    In the tail - just in front of the rear light
     
  5. hatty64

    hatty64 Registered User Read Only

    Is the plug for the loom fix in the same place for all the injected models, analog and digital ? I understand that there's just 10 wires on the digital models
     
  6. noobie

    noobie Clueless in most things Club Sponsor

  7. ianrobbo1

    ianrobbo1 good looking AND modest Club Sponsor

    The early injected one's were on the left just behind the reg rec, I believe on later models they moved further back on the same side, and later models still, had the block move to the other side completely, though I cant confirm this as I've no experience of the later models, I can however confirm that "the loom problem" is on ALL injection models bikes from 99 to the last one's, it is a connector block used at the factory as an access to testing equipment, once done with, it was wrapped in tape and hidden away, moisture eventually finds it's way into the block and surrounding areas and starts to react with the wiring, causing some very odd problems if left unchecked, and can lead to a breakdown or in some extreme cases fries most of the other electrical components!! :cry: I am also led to believe that the year bike has different amount of wires, or in different order IE bunches of 2 and 3, or as you say all together, again this will probably be confirmed by someone such as John "Jaws" that can confirm or poo poo all or some of the above!!:dunno:
     
  8. timbertops

    timbertops Registered User Read Only

    needs to be done. did mine on 99 fi minter, but still used most of year 40000 mls, was small corrosion. just done it on replacement 2004 bike,(crashed last one )19000 mls, not been best previous owner, was quite a bit of corrosion but no electric problems.
     
  9. Vinterceptor

    Vinterceptor Been there, and had one Club Sponsor

    Check the wires on your ignition switch

    I am now on my second Blackbird, the first once had a breakdown caused by a bad connection within the ignition switch. Cleaned it up and re soldered a wire into place and it lasted thousands more miles until it was wrecked in a crash:eek:

    Have just recently fitted new headstock bearings to my latest bike and decided to check the ignition switch at the same time. Found one heavily corroded connection and green furring of the contact points within the switch (could have caused a breakdown at any moment).
     
  10. hatty64

    hatty64 Registered User Read Only

    I did the loom fix on my 2000 EFI digital yesterday. Fortunately there was no corrosion but I cut the plug out. 10 wires as suggested below the battery carrier on the left.

    I had an earlier analogue model ( I had a of a kerfuffle on and wrote it off ) which blew an ECU. On examination there was a lot of corrosion on the plug on the bike which may have led to ECU failure.

    My lad has an EFI Bird too. On one occasion he came home on his bike with it running perfectly except his indicators were illuminated. Did the loom fix which cured the problem.

    It would be interesting to see a list of faults that has been caused by this problem over the years.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2016
  11. ianrobbo1

    ianrobbo1 good looking AND modest Club Sponsor

    In my case it took out battery, speedo, indicator block, reg rec, and genny, the only thing that did survive was the ECU, since John "Jaws" ripped my entire loom out whilst off his head, :eek: and installed a pre block removed replacement loom, I've had to replace the genny and reg rec, so now carry a spare of each "just in case" and have actually "lent" them to a brother bird owner to get them home when their bikes genny and reg went tits up!! :dunno:
     
  12. crj0007

    crj0007 Well-Known Member Club Sponsor

    Just did the loom fix on my 2005
    10 wires total all soldered together. stripped the end and tinned each individual wire then heated up solder in a small metal vessel about 12mm diameter and dipped all wires in the vessel. Kept them there and cooled with a water spray. Only problem was I couldn't get the vessel off when cooled to just leave the solder blob, so left it on and taped it all up with self amalgamating tape. Job done, runs like a dream.
     
  13. Jaws

    Jaws Corporal CockUp Staff Member Moderator

    man I was bad the following day.. Could not even go on the ride out..
    Not one person mentioned to me the poxy brownies were special.. So me being me , every time I was offered a bit of cake I ate it !!

    Awesome meet though !
     
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