• Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )

The rules of this section..

Jaws

Corporal CockUp
Staff member
Moderator
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The moderator will be T C with ( hopefully and at his suggestion ) help from one or two other folks

The rules..

Post any vehicular related legal question you like

Keep banter to an absolute minimum

Do not offer legal advise your self.. If you think T C or one of the other people manning the section has posted something you think is wrong, please PM the person you disagree with unless you are legally trained or are in some way actually qualified to offer legal advice

This so the answers ( which could be desperately important to someone do not become diluted with 'I think' or 'my mate who is a policeman told me' type answers )

I thank you ! @tu*
 

T.C

Been there, and had one
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great to have TC on the team. He won't fit in with most of the posters on BIRD htough as he actually DOES know his stuff.

@tu*

I have also suggested to John that maybe Murts would be good to have on board as he had legal knowledge of things like theft and criminal law (I am traffic law) and as a current instructor there are elements in his current professional life that would add substance from that perspective given that schools seem to be coming under scrutiny when a student makes an accusation because they have fallen off through their own stupidity.
 

Murt

Letch
@tu*

I have also suggested to John that maybe Murts would be good to have on board as he had legal knowledge of things like theft and criminal law (I am traffic law) and as a current instructor there are elements in his current professional life that would add substance from that perspective given that schools seem to be coming under scrutiny when a student makes an accusation because they have fallen off through their own stupidity.

Yes.
I will do what I can in relation to that.
( once I have got the books out to double check).
Murt.
 

parttimepilot

FJR and Bird Commander
Is your expertise solely in English law T.C. or are you able to give advice in relation to Scottish Law?

Also would be useful to know if you cover criminal as well as civil law.

I think I already know the answer to The Scots law bit, It might be useful to put a note on particular cases where you know things may be different, just to let others know to check out the detail & differences should this affect them?

Good resource though@tu*
 

T.C

Been there, and had one
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Is your expertise solely in English law T.C. or are you able to give advice in relation to Scottish Law?

Also would be useful to know if you cover criminal as well as civil law.

I think I already know the answer to The Scots law bit, It might be useful to put a note on particular cases where you know things may be different, just to let others know to check out the detail & differences should this affect them?

Good resource though@tu*


Unfortunately I am no expert on Scottish law. As you probably know the way the rules are applied in Scotland differ from the way it is handled in England and Wales, although in respect of liability for example in crash cases, the Scottish courts do use English case law as a guide.

My experience of criminal law these days is very basic. the last time I nicked someone for shoplifting was probably 35 years ago as 99% of my service was on Traffic, and although I still made crime arrests from time to time, I simply handed them over with a statement of arrest.

This is another reason why I thought Murt may be of assistance because his knowledge of crime law is probably far better than mine.

That having been said, I do have access to a criminal barrister and solicitors who deal with crime cases, so in many instances if it is unable to be answered straight away, invariably an answer can be obtained from a reliable source.
 
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Boggymarsh

Guest
If I can be of assistance I will happily come on board...18 years (and ongoing) frontline experience of general policing duties.
 

parttimepilot

FJR and Bird Commander
Unfortunately I am no expert on Scottish law. As you probably know the way the rules are applied in Scotland differ from the way it is handled in England and Wales, although in respect of liability for example in crash cases, the Scottish courts do use English case law as a guide.

My experience of criminal law these days is very basic. the last time I nicked someone for shoplifting was probably 35 years ago as 99% of my service was on Traffic, and although I still made crime arrests from time to time, I simply handed them over with a statement of arrest.

This is another reason why I thought Murt may be of assistance because his knowledge of crime law is probably far better than mine.

That having been said, I do have access to a criminal barrister and solicitors who deal with crime cases, so in many instances if it is unable to be answered straight away, invariably an answer can be obtained from a reliable source.

Thank T.C. Thats what I was thinking would be the case. Just thought it may be useful for you to remind folks in other jurisdictions to check the laws which relate to the area they live in / where an incident takes place.

Still think this is a fantastic idea and big up to you for volunteering your expertise@tu*
 

T.C

Been there, and had one
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If I can be of assistance I will happily come on board...18 years (and ongoing) frontline experience of general policing duties.

Absolutely, @tu* I am totally cool with that if every one else is.

Also good for questions on current Police procedures as well given that whilst I am OK on most things, there have been changes to the way certain matters are handled, so any credible input (which you clearly have) would be a big asset.
 

Tinytim

Registered User
Great stuff T.C and you too Murt.

I know John's rules don't state but I'll still ask even though it's obvious; your posts ARE up for discussion aren't they?

@tu*
 

T.C

Been there, and had one
Club Sponsor
Great stuff T.C and you too Murt.

I know John's rules don't state but I'll still ask even though it's obvious; your posts ARE up for discussion aren't they?

@tu*

I am quite happy to discuss.

I do not profess to know everything, and if I get something wrong I am happy to be corrected (which is different to someone just having a pop because they have a mate down the pub who says, or someone simply does not like the answer they are given), that's how we learn, although I will in most cases always try and qualify my answers because law is not always clear cut or black and white.

Debate and discussion is also good for the soul :yo: But if it becomes abusive then I or one of the guys will ask John to delete the offending thread or post.

Can't say fairer than that I reckon.
 

Tinytim

Registered User
Debate and discussion is also good for the soul :yo: But if it becomes abusive then I or one of the guys will ask John to delete the offending thread or post.

Great stuff. I'm sure there'll be no need for deleting posts over here T.C.

@tu*
 
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