What the ? Stabbing.

[andyBeaker]

Anything and everything can be used as a weapon. I once saw a self defence expert show how you can inflict serious harm to someone, using a bank card, if they try to mug you while getting cash out of an ATM. Anyone remember the combs that had a wire handle, widely used until they were deemed a weapon. I even knew someone who, many years ago went out on a night out,with a sit throat razor in his inside jacket pocket. As he put it
1) It's straight razor for shaving not cutting throats.
2) Since he's staying at a friend's overnight, he'll need it to do said shave in the morning.
3) It's being carried in it's storage box, so not exactly ready to hand.

Yes, all good points.

Howeverthe issue today is those that habitually carry knives for no lawful reason. There are sadly plenty of headlines re 'youth stabbed in broad daylight', can't remember 'throat slashed with credit card' or 'battered to death with golf club'.

Knives are small, easily concealed, readily available and used in violence and crime all too often . You just have to watch any fly on the wall police programme to witness it - how many suspects do they chase that dump a knife?

Yes I understand there are currently lawful reasons for carrying a knife in a public place but in my opinion that clouds the issue. Make it black and white, no excuses or defence.

It's not hard to see law stating that where a knife is required for legitimate purposes then it must be in a secure i.e. Locked container while in a public place and only accessed for the intended purpose at the time and place where it is needed.

I know what the response to this post will be by many on here 'I'm not a criminal' and I accept that (in most cases) but to them I would ask the question 'do you NEED to carry a knife, or do you CHOOSE to carry a knife?'.

As an aside, I think I am right in saying that anything can be regarded as an offensive weapon when it is perceived to be so, including the 'legal' three inch knives currently 'allowed' in law.

 

[Squag1]

Cop shot here by a guy who managed to get his gun out of the holster.
Emptied the clip!!!!

 

[Martin L Batley]

Yes, all good points.

Howeverthe issue today is those that habitually carry knives for no lawful reason. There are sadly plenty of headlines re 'youth stabbed in broad daylight', can't remember 'throat slashed with credit card' or 'battered to death with golf club'.

Knives are small, easily concealed, readily available and used in violence and crime all too often . You just have to watch any fly on the wall police programme to witness it - how many suspects do they chase that dump a knife?

Yes I understand there are currently lawful reasons for carrying a knife in a public place but in my opinion that clouds the issue. Make it black and white, no excuses or defence.

It's not hard to see law stating that where a knife is required for legitimate purposes then it must be in a secure i.e. Locked container while in a public place and only accessed for the intended purpose at the time and place where it is needed.

I know what the response to this post will be by many on here 'I'm not a criminal' and I accept that (in most cases) but to them I would ask the question 'do you NEED to carry a knife, or do you CHOOSE to carry a knife?'.

As an aside, I think I am right in saying that anything can be regarded as an offensive weapon when it is perceived to be so, including the 'legal' three inch knives currently 'allowed' in law.

I was trying to show that it's impossible to make things black and white, due to anything can be a weapon and unfortunately it's not until it's used as one that it can be proved in court to be one. At different times I could have found myself banged up for what I was carrying if a police officer decided he wasn't happy with my reasons. Such as the time I "borrowed" some sulphuric acid from work given that people have weaponised such things. Then there was the time I picked up some big knives and a meat cleaver for a friend of mine who was a chef. All right the knives were in a cotton chefs roll but the cleaver wasn't, it was in a paper bag.
Second point is, a lot of people carry knives not for a specific task in mind but but in case they might need on. I carry a Swiss Army Knife my grandad carried a pruning knife. He was used to be a gardener before going to work for British Rail and couldn't resist tidying plants up with his knife as he went by. That and take the odd cutting to grow on when he got home. God that man had green fingers, he could've planted a fence post and got it to grow.

 

[sr71caspar]

but you might have remembered if the law forbid it?

Pretty sure the law does forbid it, so no.

I would ask the question 'do you NEED to carry a knife, or do you CHOOSE to carry a knife?'.

I CHOOSE to carry a knife when I know I'll NEED it.

 

[slim63]

Yes I understand there are currently lawful reasons for carrying a knife in a public place
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I my case I carry it because I need it almost every day ! I could tell you why but there is no fun in that Strangely enough I cant remember the last time the blade was opened but the pliers & scissors were used again today

 

[andyBeaker]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54452247

55 lives taken by stabbing in London this year.

 

[slim63]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54452247

55 lives taken by stabbing in London this year.

Another good reason to stay away from the soft south of england

 

[sr71caspar]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54452247

55 lives taken by stabbing in London this year.

126 people died through road collisions in London in 2019.


It should be illegal to drive a car.

 

[derek kelly]

Mosquitos cause 2.7 million deaths a year, time they had their knives taken off them.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Mosquitos cause 2.7 million deaths a year, time they had their knives taken off them.

No post on here has ever made me laugh that hard! Best one, ever. Fact!