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Rolfy Dave

Been there, and had one
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I Just pulled this off another forum... Is this right ????? If so, :eek:


"New police powers introduced today means that any offence is now arrestable....from graffiti to dropping litter.....BRING IT ON !!!

If you don't want to get arrested, don't commit the crime, it really is that simple. Don't drop litter, don't shout abuse at people in the street, don't vandalise things.

Surely only the minority of people need to be worried about zero tolerance.

Cue all the do-gooders"





Happy new year all,

Rolfy
:beer:
 

Stevebrooke

Knee up, wheel down
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I read this on teletext a few days ago, and yes it's true. However, the Police are supposed to decide wether an arrest is suitable for the offence. If they see you drop litter are they going to arrest you? I sincerely hope not. But if they try to book you for it and you start to get gobby I suppose they might drag you in.

So it would seem that an arrest is now "discretionary"
 
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Bikerbaby

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will they arrestr you NO

think of the paper work they would have to do
 

DB on CBR1100XX

Official BASH referee !
It'll give em something..............

................albeit minor, to use against your average yob who normally tells em to feck off when challenged - they'll soon get fed up of being carted off for a few hours each time....

More power to the cops' elbow - Christ knows they have to fight crime on behalf of all us with two hands tied behind their backs by the tree hugging woolly liberal brigade.............


Oops......TRAWLER ALERT!!!! :}
 

Centaur

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wise words from one so young

I agree with BB. Too much hassle for the bobby!
 

Murt

Letch
Its True... BUT.

Yes, the powers have changed, but now apart from having to tell what offence they are arresting for, they have to explain the reasoning behind the arrest.


So in other words, its more complecated that it ever was before, and most of the forces have given minimal training for these brand new powers.
It's a cock up.

Murt the confused.

( I will add the powers as taught if I can paste them ... they are sooo interesting :puke: ).

Hope you lot understand this.......

If so PLEASE EXPLAIN.
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'For info, SOCA says;

110 Powers of arrest

Arrest without warrant: constables

(1) A constable may arrest without a warrant-

(a) anyone who is about to commit an offence;
(b) anyone who is in the act of committing an offence;
(c) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an offence;
(d) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an offence.

(2) If a constable has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence has been committed, he may arrest without a warrant anyone whom he has reasonable grounds to suspect of being guilty of it.

(3) If an offence has been committed, a constable may arrest without a warrant-

(a) anyone who is guilty of the offence;
(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.

(4) But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1), (2) or (3) is exercisable only if the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (5) it is necessary to arrest the person in question.

(5) The reasons are-

a) to enable the name of the person in question to be ascertained (in the case where the constable does not know, and cannot readily ascertain, the person's name, or has reasonable grounds for doubting whether a name given by the person as his name is his real name);
(b) correspondingly as regards the person's address;
c) to prevent the person in question-
(i) causing physical injury to himself or any other person;
(ii) suffering physical injury;
(iii) causing loss of or damage to property;
(iv) committing an offence against public decency (subject to subsection (6)); or

(v) causing an unlawful obstruction of the highway;
(d) to protect a child or other vulnerable person from the person in question;
(e) to allow the prompt and effective investigation of the offence or of the conduct of the person in question;
(f) to prevent any prosecution for the offence from being hindered by the disappearance of the person in question.
(6) Subsection (5)(c)(iv) applies only where members of the public going about their normal business cannot reasonably be expected to avoid the person in question.

(e) and (f) are effectively the only new ones. The sticking point for me as a Custody officer is (e) since I am looking forward to the reasons given by the arresting officer. Bear in mind the briefs will argue that section over and over.
 
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Pugwash

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I've watched "Police camera action" sometimes and been amazed when they carted people off inthe white van for some use of the finger and bad language. Meanwhile two old ladies being attacked in their shop the other side of our city waited for police who never turned up.
 

Murt

Letch
Thats cos we are all sat around reading up on the new 'powers' the government gave made for us, and the pissheads are an easy target, we don't want to be looking after old ladies, do we :rolleyes:

To put it in perspective... if Police weren't having to deal with the scroats / pissheads / chavs stabbing one another all the time, they could deal with the other things that boil peoples piss.

:bang:

Murt
 

Shalershasker

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marcusfordus said:
Can kids be arrested too ?, lock em all up, put the fear of God in them.:yo:
Good man:yo: , what is it they call it in the States, General Population I think:dunno: , that should sort em out.:}
 
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