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Cougar377

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Well we can all wait and see if Mr Carney will be as wrong as when the vote for out was made!! whatever the result EVERYONE should buckle down and try to help the country, it's our kids future!!

Unfortunately "the kids" (and that would be anyone under 30) haven't got a clue that the bright shiney future that they believe the EU will provide for them comes at a price called dictatorship. They certainly can't conceive of any reason why many of us prefer the concept of the Common Market ideal and harbour a deep mistrust of the unelected EU "parliament" and it's bullyboy methods of "democracy". They think being a "European" is more important than being British and seem to carry some sort of guilt complex about "old Britain", the "evil colonial power" that apparently existed pre the EU. This negative attitude towards Britain (which many seem to almost despise) has been fed to them practically from birth by the left wing liberalist element.

My former boss's daughter was absolutely outraged that Brexit could seriously affect her twice a year skiing and snowboarding holidays in Austria. This from a degree educated 26 year old. Never have so many from a single generation been so selfish, self obsessed and immature.
 

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Unfortunately "the kids" (and that would be anyone under 30) haven't got a clue that the bright shiney future that they believe the EU will provide for them comes at a price called dictatorship. They certainly can't conceive of any reason why many of us prefer the concept of the Common Market ideal and harbour a deep mistrust of the unelected EU "parliament" and it's bullyboy methods of "democracy". They think being a "European" is more important than being British and seem to carry some sort of guilt complex about "old Britain", the "evil colonial power" that apparently existed pre the EU. This negative attitude towards Britain (which many seem to almost despise) has been fed to them practically from birth by the left wing liberalist element.

My former boss's daughter was absolutely outraged that Brexit could seriously affect her twice a year skiing and snowboarding holidays in Austria. This from a degree educated 26 year old. Never have so many from a single generation been so selfish, self obsessed and immature.

Hear hear. My son (32) is the same. He even thinks Jeremy Corbyn is the answer to all the problems.
 

mickvfr800fiw

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Seems to be a lot of leave voters having a meltdown at the prospect of leaving the Eu not fully understanding what it will mean to leave on a no deal basis
Here a few things for you to digest come 30 March 2019 . Let’s be absolutely clear here , your vote created this utter mess

[URL]https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/thirty-six-things-that-will-happen-if-britain-crashes-out-of-europe-with-no-deal[/URL]

For those that haven’t got the brains to post a link let alone click on one here it is , enjoy

1. First things first, the economy. The pound will almost certainly plummet, although it may not happen overnight as no deal would have been on the cards for some weeks before 30th March. Inflation is likely to rise sharply. Businesses will activate their contingency plans. The UK stops being seen as a reliable economic hub. More on all of this later.

2. Three million European Union citizens in the UK and one million Britons in the EU will lose all automatic rights and protections overnight. Simply, they will have no guaranteed legal status.

3. Planes will stop flying. Aviation is currently governed by the Single European Sky, European Aviation Safety Agency and aviation single market. You fall out of those, and pilots and planes lose their certification overnight. Ignore the people who think they are being original in pointing out that non-EU countries can fly planes to the EU. Non-EU countries aren’t voluntarily crashing out of their supervisory aviation mechanisms. Oh, and don’t even think about escaping to the United States. UK/US air travel is governed by an EU agreement too.

4. Food will rot. We import about half of our food and feed, and 70 per cent of that comes from the EU. The bosses of Calais and Dover have warned of 30-mile tailbacks and possible infrastructural collapse. Experts have already warned that supermarkets will soon run out of supplies. (Hence the stockpiling.)

5. On the subject of food, many farms will struggle immensely. Dairy tariffs average 40 per cent and meat tariffs can be much higher—so they won’t be exporting it to their largest market anymore.

6. Out of the single market and customs union, supply chains are severed overnight. That paralyses industry. A British-made car may depend on just-in-time components from multiple EU sources which travel across the Channel several times without tariffs or checks. The list of major products made exclusively in Britain is vanishingly small.

7. Out of the Common Fisheries Policy, there will be no legal basis for landing catches in the EU. Given that we export most of the fish we catch, many fishers will be crippled by new market blocks.

8. There is as yet no guarantee that nuclear safeguards will be in place to cover the crash out of Euratom. EDF has warned of power shortages. In an extreme scenario, Hinkley Point would have to be mothballed, resulting in a compensation claim of £22bn.

9. Radioisotopes for radiotherapy are partially governed by Euratom. More to the point, we don’t produce any and we can’t stockpile them either. Many of them will decay while waiting to clear the Channel ports.

10. We’ll be out of the single energy market, which means we’ll need to produce a lot more of our own electricity—placing significant strain on the National Grid. Northern Ireland would, it seems, require emergency generators in the Irish Sea.

11. Immediate departure from the European Medicines Agency means no more access to Europe-wide clinical trials, and no more easy regulation or access to new drugs.

12. Medicines will have to be stockpiled in the context of border chaos.

13. The end of Horizon 2020 ends EU research grants for labs and universities. Current projects will also be jeopardised.

14. 10 per cent of our doctors and 7 per cent of our nurses come from the EU. Many of them will simply leave the country, but there could in any case be a crisis of mutual recognition in which qualifications aren’t recognised. The same goes for vets.

15. Air pollution is currently monitored by the EU and the UK is legally obliged to maintain certain levels of air quality. Not anymore. The same goes for other environmental benchmarks involving, for example, waterways and beaches.

16. UK tourists will have any number of problems. In no particular order, they will no longer be covered by the EHIC insurance scheme, which all but rules out travel for those with pre-existing conditions; they will no longer be able to drive in the EU without an international driving licence; and they may be liable for visas to travel to the EU.

17. Pet passports will end.

18. UK lorry drivers will no longer have the permits they need to travel into the EU.

19. British consumers will lose multiple protections, whether regarding compensation for cancelled flights or rights in cancelling purchases.

20. We fall out of the EU’s Rapid Alert system that warns member states about faulty or dangerous consumer goods.

21. No digital single market means no access to EU broadcasting networks and the end of automatic free roaming.

22. Data protection falls into immediate limbo. That will prevent data sharing for policing purposes and everyday business transactions, with small businesses the hardest hit by the new regulatory burdens.

23. We leave Europol, and with it our EU-wide police and counter-terrorism cooperation ends.

24. No longer in the European Arrest Warrant, we will have no means of extraditing suspects to or from the EU. Information-sharing instruments will also no longer apply.

25. We will be out of the EU’s Common Foreign and Security Policy and European Defence Agency. That means jeopardising current operations and common procurement schemes, and the end to participation in the EU’s wide diplomatic network.

26. Financial services automatically lose their passporting rights, which allow the City of London to function as the EU’s unofficial hub for cross-border banking and financial trading. Valuable transactions will move to Paris and Frankfurt. Thousands of jobs will be on the line and the government will lose vital tax revenue.

27. Loss of passporting rights will void cross-border insurance policies. Passported pension payments to, for example, British expats in Spain, may not be legal.

28. Numerous professional qualifications will become useless as mutual recognition ends. Thousands of British-qualified lawyers, accountants, midwives and masseurs will be unable to practise in EU member states.

29. Students on Erasmus may have to suspend their exchange programmes and planned future exchanges will not go ahead.

30. We fall out of all our EU-brokered trade deals, damaging our trade with countries all over the world. Canada will re-impose WTO tariffs and non-tariff barriers on UK goods until a replacement deal (probably on much more favourable Canadian terms) has been agreed.

31. We lose access to the Galileo programme, which could have serious consequences for satellite navigation.

32. We terminate membership of each EU agency, from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control to the Community Plant Variety Office. These agencies cover everything from intellectual property rights to chemical regulation, and we don’t have bodies to replace them.

33. The UK will depart the EU’s intellectual property regime, with EU trademarks ceasing to have British application. The UK will also be excluded from the EU’s unitary patent framework.

34. Automatically outside the European Court of Justice, all ongoing cases involving the UK will have no legal effect.

35. Thousands of British officials working in EU institutions could lose their jobs—and their pensions. International litigation against the UK could follow—and the EU will certainly sue if the UK refuses pay its divorce settlement.

36. Last but not least, Northern Ireland gets a hard border, which breaches the Good Friday Agreement, re-inflames old tensions and wounds, and creates an active and severe security risk—as well as undermining the Northern Irish economy. Decades of hard work, meanwhile, to normalise the now excellent UK-Irish relationship will be undone overnight.

This is “the will of the people “ apparently
 

derek kelly

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Seems to be a lot of leave voters having a meltdown at the prospect of leaving the Eu not fully understanding what it will mean to leave on a no deal basis
Here a few things for you to digest come 30 March 2019 . Let’s be absolutely clear here , your vote created this utter mess

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...if-britain-crashes-out-of-europe-with-no-deal

For those that haven’t got the brains to post a link let alone click on one here it is , enjoy

1. First things first, the economy. The pound will almost certainly plummet, although it may not happen overnight as no deal would have been on the cards for some weeks before 30th March. Inflation is likely to rise sharply. Businesses will activate their contingency plans. The UK stops being seen as a reliable economic hub. More on all of this later.

2. Three million European Union citizens in the UK and one million Britons in the EU will lose all automatic rights and protections overnight. Simply, they will have no guaranteed legal status.

3. Planes will stop flying. Aviation is currently governed by the Single European Sky, European Aviation Safety Agency and aviation single market. You fall out of those, and pilots and planes lose their certification overnight. Ignore the people who think they are being original in pointing out that non-EU countries can fly planes to the EU. Non-EU countries aren’t voluntarily crashing out of their supervisory aviation mechanisms. Oh, and don’t even think about escaping to the United States. UK/US air travel is governed by an EU agreement too.

4. Food will rot. We import about half of our food and feed, and 70 per cent of that comes from the EU. The bosses of Calais and Dover have warned of 30-mile tailbacks and possible infrastructural collapse. Experts have already warned that supermarkets will soon run out of supplies. (Hence the stockpiling.)

5. On the subject of food, many farms will struggle immensely. Dairy tariffs average 40 per cent and meat tariffs can be much higher—so they won’t be exporting it to their largest market anymore.

6. Out of the single market and customs union, supply chains are severed overnight. That paralyses industry. A British-made car may depend on just-in-time components from multiple EU sources which travel across the Channel several times without tariffs or checks. The list of major products made exclusively in Britain is vanishingly small.

7. Out of the Common Fisheries Policy, there will be no legal basis for landing catches in the EU. Given that we export most of the fish we catch, many fishers will be crippled by new market blocks.

8. There is as yet no guarantee that nuclear safeguards will be in place to cover the crash out of Euratom. EDF has warned of power shortages. In an extreme scenario, Hinkley Point would have to be mothballed, resulting in a compensation claim of £22bn.

9. Radioisotopes for radiotherapy are partially governed by Euratom. More to the point, we don’t produce any and we can’t stockpile them either. Many of them will decay while waiting to clear the Channel ports.

10. We’ll be out of the single energy market, which means we’ll need to produce a lot more of our own electricity—placing significant strain on the National Grid. Northern Ireland would, it seems, require emergency generators in the Irish Sea.

11. Immediate departure from the European Medicines Agency means no more access to Europe-wide clinical trials, and no more easy regulation or access to new drugs.

12. Medicines will have to be stockpiled in the context of border chaos.

13. The end of Horizon 2020 ends EU research grants for labs and universities. Current projects will also be jeopardised.

14. 10 per cent of our doctors and 7 per cent of our nurses come from the EU. Many of them will simply leave the country, but there could in any case be a crisis of mutual recognition in which qualifications aren’t recognised. The same goes for vets.

15. Air pollution is currently monitored by the EU and the UK is legally obliged to maintain certain levels of air quality. Not anymore. The same goes for other environmental benchmarks involving, for example, waterways and beaches.

16. UK tourists will have any number of problems. In no particular order, they will no longer be covered by the EHIC insurance scheme, which all but rules out travel for those with pre-existing conditions; they will no longer be able to drive in the EU without an international driving licence; and they may be liable for visas to travel to the EU.

17. Pet passports will end.

18. UK lorry drivers will no longer have the permits they need to travel into the EU.

19. British consumers will lose multiple protections, whether regarding compensation for cancelled flights or rights in cancelling purchases.

20. We fall out of the EU’s Rapid Alert system that warns member states about faulty or dangerous consumer goods.

21. No digital single market means no access to EU broadcasting networks and the end of automatic free roaming.

22. Data protection falls into immediate limbo. That will prevent data sharing for policing purposes and everyday business transactions, with small businesses the hardest hit by the new regulatory burdens.

23. We leave Europol, and with it our EU-wide police and counter-terrorism cooperation ends.

24. No longer in the European Arrest Warrant, we will have no means of extraditing suspects to or from the EU. Information-sharing instruments will also no longer apply.

25. We will be out of the EU’s Common Foreign and Security Policy and European Defence Agency. That means jeopardising current operations and common procurement schemes, and the end to participation in the EU’s wide diplomatic network.

26. Financial services automatically lose their passporting rights, which allow the City of London to function as the EU’s unofficial hub for cross-border banking and financial trading. Valuable transactions will move to Paris and Frankfurt. Thousands of jobs will be on the line and the government will lose vital tax revenue.

27. Loss of passporting rights will void cross-border insurance policies. Passported pension payments to, for example, British expats in Spain, may not be legal.

28. Numerous professional qualifications will become useless as mutual recognition ends. Thousands of British-qualified lawyers, accountants, midwives and masseurs will be unable to practise in EU member states.

29. Students on Erasmus may have to suspend their exchange programmes and planned future exchanges will not go ahead.

30. We fall out of all our EU-brokered trade deals, damaging our trade with countries all over the world. Canada will re-impose WTO tariffs and non-tariff barriers on UK goods until a replacement deal (probably on much more favourable Canadian terms) has been agreed.

31. We lose access to the Galileo programme, which could have serious consequences for satellite navigation.

32. We terminate membership of each EU agency, from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control to the Community Plant Variety Office. These agencies cover everything from intellectual property rights to chemical regulation, and we don’t have bodies to replace them.

33. The UK will depart the EU’s intellectual property regime, with EU trademarks ceasing to have British application. The UK will also be excluded from the EU’s unitary patent framework.

34. Automatically outside the European Court of Justice, all ongoing cases involving the UK will have no legal effect.

35. Thousands of British officials working in EU institutions could lose their jobs—and their pensions. International litigation against the UK could follow—and the EU will certainly sue if the UK refuses pay its divorce settlement.

36. Last but not least, Northern Ireland gets a hard border, which breaches the Good Friday Agreement, re-inflames old tensions and wounds, and creates an active and severe security risk—as well as undermining the Northern Irish economy. Decades of hard work, meanwhile, to normalise the now excellent UK-Irish relationship will be undone overnight.

This is “the will of the people “ apparently
I was reading it up until point 5 then dispelled it as more scaremongering, Farmers have a guarantee from our own Government that they will not be affected for five years.
 

Cougar377

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Seems to be a lot of leave voters having a meltdown at the prospect of leaving the Eu not fully understanding what it will mean to leave on a no deal basis
Here a few things for you to digest come 30 March 2019 . Let’s be absolutely clear here , your vote created this utter mess
...................................................................

This is “the will of the people “ apparently

Blah, blah, blah..... Project Fear rides again. What the f*ck are you...the love child of Mark Carney and Private Fraser....???

Poor negotation, hampered by infighting and backstabbing is clearly NOT the will of any people. Those of us (i.e the democratic majority) who did vote to Leave the EU obviously did NOT vote for a bunch of bad losers on both sides in Parliament to jeopardise the negotiations.

Why don't you direct your vitriol towards them...the selfish, arrogant f*ckwit MP's who have no concept of what democracy really means and who would rather knife the entire country in the back than get behind the Government (who are, after all, acting with a mandate from the majority of the people) to see this thing done smoothly with the minimum of disruption.

In case you're having problems identifying the MP's concerned...they're the ones who claim that we should have a second Brexit vote, but would never tolerate it if their own constituents wanted to have a second vote on re-electing them.

Meanwhile, get a grip FFS or you'll give yourself a nosebleed.
 
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andyBeaker

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Well we can all wait and see if Mr Carney will be as wrong as when the vote for out was made!! whatever the result EVERYONE should buckle down and try to help the country, it's our kids future!!
And stop buying water in plastic bottles - learned yesterday that 35m A DAY are sold in the uk.

It's our kids future that we are slowly destroying.
 

T.C

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Hear hear. My son (32) is the same. He even thinks Jeremy Corbyn is the answer to all the problems.

I am proud of my daughter who is 26. (Well I am proud of her anyway (y):))

She voted OUT! And there was no encouragement from me or her mother, we said to her, the choice was entirely hers.
 

andyBeaker

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Why do people buy bottled water? Perfectly good water from the tap.
I agree to a point Derek, but compared the our last place the tap water doesn't seem as good, and is certainly a lot harder. Whether it is better or worse or the same is beyond me so I use a Brita filter bottle before drinking it! Ironic and annoying that the filters in the bottle are disposable, even though they do last for ages. Better than buying it in plastic bottles imho.
 

Pow-Lo

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Seems to be a lot of leave voters having a meltdown at the prospect of leaving the Eu not fully understanding what it will mean to leave on a no deal basis
Here a few things for you to digest come 30 March 2019 . Let’s be absolutely clear here , your vote created this utter mess

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/...if-britain-crashes-out-of-europe-with-no-deal

For those that haven’t got the brains to post a link let alone click on one here it is , enjoy

1. First things first, the economy. The pound will almost certainly plummet, although it may not happen overnight as no deal would have been on the cards for some weeks before 30th March. Inflation is likely to rise sharply. Businesses will activate their contingency plans. The UK stops being seen as a reliable economic hub. More on all of this later.

2. Three million European Union citizens in the UK and one million Britons in the EU will lose all automatic rights and protections overnight. Simply, they will have no guaranteed legal status.

3. Planes will stop flying. Aviation is currently governed by the Single European Sky, European Aviation Safety Agency and aviation single market. You fall out of those, and pilots and planes lose their certification overnight. Ignore the people who think they are being original in pointing out that non-EU countries can fly planes to the EU. Non-EU countries aren’t voluntarily crashing out of their supervisory aviation mechanisms. Oh, and don’t even think about escaping to the United States. UK/US air travel is governed by an EU agreement too.

4. Food will rot. We import about half of our food and feed, and 70 per cent of that comes from the EU. The bosses of Calais and Dover have warned of 30-mile tailbacks and possible infrastructural collapse. Experts have already warned that supermarkets will soon run out of supplies. (Hence the stockpiling.)

5. On the subject of food, many farms will struggle immensely. Dairy tariffs average 40 per cent and meat tariffs can be much higher—so they won’t be exporting it to their largest market anymore.

6. Out of the single market and customs union, supply chains are severed overnight. That paralyses industry. A British-made car may depend on just-in-time components from multiple EU sources which travel across the Channel several times without tariffs or checks. The list of major products made exclusively in Britain is vanishingly small.

7. Out of the Common Fisheries Policy, there will be no legal basis for landing catches in the EU. Given that we export most of the fish we catch, many fishers will be crippled by new market blocks.

8. There is as yet no guarantee that nuclear safeguards will be in place to cover the crash out of Euratom. EDF has warned of power shortages. In an extreme scenario, Hinkley Point would have to be mothballed, resulting in a compensation claim of £22bn.

9. Radioisotopes for radiotherapy are partially governed by Euratom. More to the point, we don’t produce any and we can’t stockpile them either. Many of them will decay while waiting to clear the Channel ports.

10. We’ll be out of the single energy market, which means we’ll need to produce a lot more of our own electricity—placing significant strain on the National Grid. Northern Ireland would, it seems, require emergency generators in the Irish Sea.

11. Immediate departure from the European Medicines Agency means no more access to Europe-wide clinical trials, and no more easy regulation or access to new drugs.

12. Medicines will have to be stockpiled in the context of border chaos.

13. The end of Horizon 2020 ends EU research grants for labs and universities. Current projects will also be jeopardised.

14. 10 per cent of our doctors and 7 per cent of our nurses come from the EU. Many of them will simply leave the country, but there could in any case be a crisis of mutual recognition in which qualifications aren’t recognised. The same goes for vets.

15. Air pollution is currently monitored by the EU and the UK is legally obliged to maintain certain levels of air quality. Not anymore. The same goes for other environmental benchmarks involving, for example, waterways and beaches.

16. UK tourists will have any number of problems. In no particular order, they will no longer be covered by the EHIC insurance scheme, which all but rules out travel for those with pre-existing conditions; they will no longer be able to drive in the EU without an international driving licence; and they may be liable for visas to travel to the EU.

17. Pet passports will end.

18. UK lorry drivers will no longer have the permits they need to travel into the EU.

19. British consumers will lose multiple protections, whether regarding compensation for cancelled flights or rights in cancelling purchases.

20. We fall out of the EU’s Rapid Alert system that warns member states about faulty or dangerous consumer goods.

21. No digital single market means no access to EU broadcasting networks and the end of automatic free roaming.

22. Data protection falls into immediate limbo. That will prevent data sharing for policing purposes and everyday business transactions, with small businesses the hardest hit by the new regulatory burdens.

23. We leave Europol, and with it our EU-wide police and counter-terrorism cooperation ends.

24. No longer in the European Arrest Warrant, we will have no means of extraditing suspects to or from the EU. Information-sharing instruments will also no longer apply.

25. We will be out of the EU’s Common Foreign and Security Policy and European Defence Agency. That means jeopardising current operations and common procurement schemes, and the end to participation in the EU’s wide diplomatic network.

26. Financial services automatically lose their passporting rights, which allow the City of London to function as the EU’s unofficial hub for cross-border banking and financial trading. Valuable transactions will move to Paris and Frankfurt. Thousands of jobs will be on the line and the government will lose vital tax revenue.

27. Loss of passporting rights will void cross-border insurance policies. Passported pension payments to, for example, British expats in Spain, may not be legal.

28. Numerous professional qualifications will become useless as mutual recognition ends. Thousands of British-qualified lawyers, accountants, midwives and masseurs will be unable to practise in EU member states.

29. Students on Erasmus may have to suspend their exchange programmes and planned future exchanges will not go ahead.

30. We fall out of all our EU-brokered trade deals, damaging our trade with countries all over the world. Canada will re-impose WTO tariffs and non-tariff barriers on UK goods until a replacement deal (probably on much more favourable Canadian terms) has been agreed.

31. We lose access to the Galileo programme, which could have serious consequences for satellite navigation.

32. We terminate membership of each EU agency, from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control to the Community Plant Variety Office. These agencies cover everything from intellectual property rights to chemical regulation, and we don’t have bodies to replace them.

33. The UK will depart the EU’s intellectual property regime, with EU trademarks ceasing to have British application. The UK will also be excluded from the EU’s unitary patent framework.

34. Automatically outside the European Court of Justice, all ongoing cases involving the UK will have no legal effect.

35. Thousands of British officials working in EU institutions could lose their jobs—and their pensions. International litigation against the UK could follow—and the EU will certainly sue if the UK refuses pay its divorce settlement.

36. Last but not least, Northern Ireland gets a hard border, which breaches the Good Friday Agreement, re-inflames old tensions and wounds, and creates an active and severe security risk—as well as undermining the Northern Irish economy. Decades of hard work, meanwhile, to normalise the now excellent UK-Irish relationship will be undone overnight.

This is “the will of the people “ apparently
Scaremongering at it's finest.
 

Pow-Lo

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Why do people buy bottled water? Perfectly good water from the tap.
I buy glass bottled water occasionally. The water where I live is shockingly hard and tastes like shit. Ok, maybe not literally shit but (as a dog lover, you should be able to relate to this) even my little dog wouldn't drink water out of the tap. We use a Brita filter and that makes it drinkable.
 

Cougar377

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I'm still trying to figure out what's pushed up the price of water filters so much. 6 - 8 months ago I could get a pack of 6 x Brita filters for about £12 - £16 (depending on supermarket). Now you're lucky to get 3 x filters for the same price...

Who's going to be the first to blame Brexit...? :couch:
 

andyBeaker

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Scaremongering at it's finest.
Very possibly.

But to me the point was and is that an exit vote was always going to cause chais and uncertainty and that is exactly where we are.

The weakness of the £ is a disaster in its own right and personally I can't see a rebound any time soon. This hits us all in the pocket in so many ways.

Mrs May is being asked to play poker with a very weak hand so if anyone expects this to become the land of milk and honey overnight they need to get real.

As someone else mentioned, personally I think the EU will collapse within the next five - ten years.

No winners anywhere at the moment or in the short term as far as I am concerned.
 

andyBeaker

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I'm still trying to figure out what's pushed up the price of water filters so much. 6 - 8 months ago I could get a pack of 6 x Brita filters for about £12 - £16 (depending on supermarket). Now you're lucky to get 3 x filters for the same price...

Who's going to be the first to blame Brexit...? :couch:
Look at the packaging and see where they are made.........the weakness of the £ is your answer, maybe supported by the manufacturers taking advantage of the rapid increase in public awareness (including me) of the plastic issue in the last year or two. As if....
 

Cougar377

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Look at the packaging and see where they are made.........the weakness of the £ is your answer, maybe supported by the manufacturers taking advantage of the rapid increase in public awareness (including me) of the plastic issue in the last year or two. As if....

I'm not convinced that it's anything to do with the value of the pound, the prices were similar when we were in Holland a few weeks ago.
 

Cougar377

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Blimey, your holidays sound exciting!!

A week of the fortnight away was in self catering so we did pop into the local supermarket on occasion.

It never ceases to amaze me how many products on the shelves are no different (as in their packaging was all in English) to stuff sold over here.
It's one of the reasons why I like Holland.
 
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