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Don't start the 'all rugby players are true gentlemen' argument as it simply isn't true. Eye gouging, knacker squeezing, drinking after shave, spike tackles......
The term is ‘spear tackle’, tit head.
 

derek kelly

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Is that it now? Is the egg chasing finally over? Can we get back to proper sport? Football at the weekend, yay.
 

Oldandbald

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Don't start the 'all rugby players are true gentlemen' argument as it simply isn't true. Eye gouging, knacker squeezing, drinking after shave, spike tackles......
No it isn't true. There are rogue players in all sport. But I watched all of the internationals over the weekend and didn't see one example. But the point is that there is a citing commitee which deals with these matters properly after the game to make sure players are punished appropriately. And that is true whether the ref sees and deals with it or not. Just remind me again - how does that work in football?
 

Oldandbald

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Is that it now? Is the egg chasing finally over? Can we get back to proper sport? Football at the weekend, yay.
There was football at the weekend. England played somebody or other in the European fish and chip nobody gives a shit cup.
 

slim63

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I refer you to my previous 'nobody gives a shit' post.

Don't worry mate, some folk are only capable of understanding little boys games, simple minds & all that ;) if they ever grow up they might begin to understand mens sport ............ but I doubt it :D
 

Oldandbald

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Don't worry mate, some folk are only capable of understanding little boys games, simple minds & all that ;) if they ever grow up they might begin to understand mens sport ............ but I doubt it :D
Posted a nice picture of him on his yacht though didn't he? You can't even see his butler pulling on the other end of the line.
 

andyBeaker

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All a bit touchy today?

Maybe you need to huddle close together in a manly scrum.....
 

Oldandbald

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S'funny, since your 'I don't give I've a sh*t' post you have subsequently posted twice.
That's just to make absolutely sure you know. Timely article on the BBC sport site today on football referees which I'm sure you have read.
 

andyBeaker

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That's just to make absolutely sure you know. Timely article on the BBC sport site today on football referees which I'm sure you have read.
Indeed I did. I gave up reffing Sunday league' football as there was simply too much hassle too often. Generally the players sorted out anyone that really got out of line but 'supporters' and parents were at times uncontrollable. However, the biggest problem was lack of support from those that ran the leagues - they generally sided with the manager who was invariably a mate over anything controversial; as a ref you know when you have had a good or bad game but when you were marked at 2/10 when you know you had a good game as a result of giving big decisions against a team and are subsequently censured then you know you are wasting your time.

I also got bored with making a 90 mile round trip after work to listen to a player try to and fail in appeal against a dismissal for calling me a 'cheating c*nt' or similar. They then got the arse when a mandatory ban was doubled due to the frivolous nature of the appeal - the difference between dealing with County officials compared to Sunday league committee members.

Although I was never actually physically assaulted, I was certainly concerned for my safety at times, to the extent that on one occasion I was too scared to abandon a game that had got completely out of hand, both on and off the pitch. Not worth it for giving up a weekend day and getting £45 in my pocket.

Nine games out of ten were a pleasure to officiate, but the one in ten made me think it wasn't worth it. Concentrated on Academy and semi-pro after that. Different world. Having said that, parents at Academy games were banned from making any noise during games. Made life a lot easier, both for officials and players.

As mentioned in the article, the rot starts at the top; although I personally feel that most exaggerate the behaviour of Premier League players/officials to refs it does need cleaning up. If little Johnny sees bad behaviour at that level they assume it is ok. The managers are the worst, with the pundits not too far behind.

Rugby is still a stupid game though.:couch:
 

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Ain't that the sad truth Centaur. The FA need to address this now. Maybe a phone call to the RFU if they are struggling for ideas.
No, they needed to address it thirty years ago.

There is also a big difference between rugby and football; most decisions that penalise in rugby are clear cut in technical terms. Decisions in football are almost always a matter of opinion/interpretation. It is also a much faster game that makes decision making exponentially more difficult.

Behaviour to officials is obviously generally better in rugby and football needs to look at that.
 
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