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Puppet or Muppet?

derek kelly

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Lewis Hamilton says he’s not comfortable racing in Saudi Arabia but it’s not his choice, of course it’s his choice but he hasn’t got the bottle to stand for his supposed beliefs, I get that racing is his livelihood but he doesn’t need the money & this would be a perfect opportunity for him to show a moral backbone, obviously he doesn’t have one, but we knew that already.
 

slim63

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Well he has high moral standards and wishes to stand up for the oppressed ? ..... which is a load of old bollocks as we all know !

He drives for Mercedes for a start who were a staunch supporter of the national socialists before Hitler came to power and his biggest paymaster after, also a massive arms manufacturer throughout ww2 who used slave labour particularly in V2 and aircraft production and deported those unwilling or unable to work to the concentration camps where they were gassed or worse and that is if they were not beaten or worked to death beforehand

Hamilton only cares for his pay packet, has the moral standards of a snail and even less brain, about time the dickspash used his celeb status or god forbid some of his money to actually do some good instead of just trying to get his (please punch me) ugly mug in the papers :mad: I hope verstappen crashes into him and sets fire to his fecking stupid hair .... prick!

This is me sitting on the fence by the way (y)
 

andyBeaker

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He drives for Mercedes for a start who were a staunch supporter of the national socialists before Hitler came to power and his biggest paymaster after, also a massive arms manufacturer throughout ww2 who used slave labour particularly in V2 and aircraft production and deported those unwilling or unable to work to the concentration camps where they were gassed or worse and that is if they were not beaten or worked to death beforehand
while factually correct it is really, really stretching credibility to link that to current day.

Using the same logic George Russell is equally culpable for driving for a team that has used BMW engines, the same BMW that supplied engines in WW2 for many applications, not least the Me109 which claimed more victims than any other fighter plane in support of the Nazi philosophy. AND he is driving for Mercedes next season.

Anyone wearing Hugo Boss clobber is equally culpable , with Herr Boss being a senior member of the Nazi party and designer and supplier of the uniforms for the dreaded SS, including the ‘death head’ squads that committed countless atrocities while ‘cleaning up’ after blitzkrieg invasions In Eastern Europe.

And I suppose I am equally culpable for driving a BMW. Who would have guessed?

And I haven’t even started on anyone who drives a VW……
 

Malone

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And that’s me, and also I’ve 2 bikes from the land of the rising sun, and they weren’t all that nice I recall. Actually I don’t think they’re very nice even now, especially if you are a whale.
 

andyBeaker

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And that’s me, and also I’ve 2 bikes from the land of the rising sun, and they weren’t all that nice I recall. Actually I don’t think they’re very nice even now, especially if you are a whale.
That occurred to me while I was out - slim63 has ridden a Japanese motorbike:yikes:.

That’ll be the Japan that committed numerous atrocities both in China and Indo-China, both on civilians and military.

I am going to call him ‘Hirohito’ from now on.:)
 

ogr1

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A puppet is a figure of an object, person, animal, bird, etc. ... Muppets were a group of characters which were actually a type of puppet.
Jim Henson said the name "muppet" came from combining the words "puppet" and "marionette,"
 

derek kelly

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Britain is not without blame for atrocities however it’s in the past, nobody should be punished for sins of their fathers, someone in Barbados the other day claiming that Britain should pay them compensation.
 

Squag1

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People complaining also because he has sponsorship from Kingspan who manufactured the panels for the Grenfell apartments.
They took a serious hit there even though, as I understand it, weren't involved in the project.
 

andyBeaker

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People complaining also because he has sponsorship from Kingspan who manufactured the panels for the Grenfell apartments.
They took a serious hit there even though, as I understand it, weren't involved in the project.
As I understand it Greenspan have categorically denied they were involved in Grenfell but have said that one of their products was used by a contractor for a purpose that it was not designed for on the building.

Seems to be yet another sensational story created to grab headlines and click bait. No need for facts to get in the way.

Who would have thought it.
 

slim63

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That occurred to me while I was out - slim63 has ridden a Japanese motorbike:yikes:.

That’ll be the Japan that committed numerous atrocities both in China and Indo-China, both on civilians and military.

I am going to call him ‘Hirohito’ from now on.:)
This is a fair argument that needs a little more looking at ...............

Do I have the status and the money to make a difference to a few hundred lives? ..... that will be a resounding NO!

Do use my exalted position to I bang on about racism/slavery that happened hundreds of years ago and support racist criminals (BLM) that are intent on destroying MY and HIS country's history, while ignoring just as terrible recent history ... again that will be a NO!

Have I made clearly racist comments in the media and got away with it? ....errr NOPE!

Don't be fooled by this latest flea up his skirt its about keeping his ugly mug in the media, he cant bang on about the current state of affairs, historical atrocities such as the slave trade or even the Empire (connected) without admitting to and looking at his employers recent history, previous political leanings and misdeeds ... and remember all the things and more I mentioned happened within living memory

So yeah I have ridden Jap German and even Italian I am not shallow enough to ignore or pretend to not understand what these countries participated in not so long ago

Bloke is an utter prick and I for one would be happy to tell him to his face exactly why
 

slim63

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while factually correct it is really, really stretching credibility to link that to current day.

Using the same logic George Russell is equally culpable for driving for a team that has used BMW engines, the same BMW that supplied engines in WW2 for many applications, not least the Me109 which claimed more victims than any other fighter plane in support of the Nazi philosophy. AND he is driving for Mercedes next season.

Anyone wearing Hugo Boss clobber is equally culpable , with Herr Boss being a senior member of the Nazi party and designer and supplier of the uniforms for the dreaded SS, including the ‘death head’ squads that committed countless atrocities while ‘cleaning up’ after blitzkrieg invasions In Eastern Europe.

And I suppose I am equally culpable for driving a BMW. Who would have guessed?

And I haven’t even started on anyone who drives a VW……
As for this post you are correct of course and all of the companies mentioned and more (I G Farben makers of zyclon B to name one) try to pretend it didn't happen or that they were not involved or even worse that they were forced into working for the regime all of which is bullshit in 99.9% of cases, if you know your history nearly all were willing participants who made millions from the deal

Maybe I am old fashioned, I don't want to make companies with that history even richer and try my best not to.

I bet your parents and grandparents held a similar view to mine Andrew?
 
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