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Project - Blackbird bixenon

madlandrover

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Postscript: no issues with beam pattern or alignment on the MoT test today. The only comment was that the main beam looked strange to them because it had no defined focal point, just uniform bright light to the edges of the beam. Guess they're not too used to testing HID main beams :-0)
 

madlandrover

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Made a final few tweaks to get it the way I like it. The beams had a defined kick up to the left, great for UK riding but would have required tape on the headlight lens for European stuff. Ultimately the level of light is good enough that the extra light on the left isn't hugely necessary, so it's only 4 screws to disassemble a projector and file the cutoff shield flat. Also realigned the beams carefully and JB Welded the projector cases in place to keep them there. Also fitted one of these - well worth the miniscule amount of work while I had the headlight off anyway, given that my normal access to the adjuster with fairing on is blocked by ballasts & Stebel horn!
 

andyBeaker

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Nice modification@tu*@tu*

If I had the time and patience - and a spare headlight!! - I would follow suit as I do a lot of night riding.

There is a bit of road near where I live where you go into quite a sharp dip in the road - with both HIDS lit up on the way down into the dip it shows you how good the lights on the Bird could have been - sadly on a flat road the main just lights up the hedges and street furniture.
 

madlandrover

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It does make night riding that bit easier/more natural - still a flat beam on corners, but better coverage.
 

noobie

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I admire your patience and you've done a great job but two things stand out for me.

Decent hids set up right are quicker, cheaper and far less trouble and probably the most important thing, most of these old farts in here rarely go out when it's dark 8rfl@
 

ianrobbo1

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I admire your patience and you've done a great job but two things stand out for me.

Decent hids set up right are quicker, cheaper and far less trouble and probably the most important thing, most of these old farts in here rarely go out when it's dark 8rfl@

b0x1 OY!!!! I'll have you know I've just been out and it's pitch black out there, I nearly couldn't see where I was putting the wheelie bin for collection tomorrow morning!! :dunno:
 

madlandrover

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Decent hids set up right are quicker, cheaper and far less trouble and probably the most important thing, most of these old farts in here rarely go out when it's dark 8rfl@

True on both counts :-0) but there's still nothing quite like the accurate wall of light a good projector setup can produce - gets rid of all the little issues with the BB's headlight in one fell swoop. And it was a challenge... I'm stupid that way.
 

noobie

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I was looking through u.s. ebay, ebay.com and found something very similar

item num 121065798518
 
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Daddiator

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Projector project

Hi Madlandrover and thanks for all your post regarding the hid projector project. I have not been on this forum for years but thought I would take a look to see if any one had done exactly what you have. My daughter bought me for xmas a set of two hid projectors off ebay ( I didn't ask for them!) and they have sat in my garage whilst I mustered the enthusiasm to have a go at fitting them. They are the ones advertised on ebay as having the angel eye and red devil eye and I was very wary of them and concerned that they were not that expensive so probably rubbish.I have wired them up off the bike and don't intend to connect the red light for obvious legal reasons but the white angel eye 'halo ring' looks quite good when wired to the side light feed. The hid projector looks quite powerful and certainly on a par with the existing fitted low beam hid so should be blinding with both on together.
Your posts have given me the impetus to get on with the job so watch this space. Thanks again. Colin
 

madlandrover

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Good to hear of another project on the way :bow: it's easier than it sounds to do it, once I'd started I had to finish! 2 MOTs done so far with no issues (and several more on cars with the same retrofit), the extra instant light at night is well worth it. More visible in traffic too!
 
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Daddiator

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Headlight flash

Hi, Just a quick question, How did you overcome the issue of the flasher button only operating the projector relay when riding with the lights off? I am thinking I could locate the individual wire from the flasher button and wire it directly to the low and main beam feeds to the hid? this way it would switch the hid on and would also flash the hid, using the relay , if the lights were already on........
Your views and suggestions would appreciated.
Ta
 

madlandrover

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I cheated and used a loom with a box of relays and diodes to power and switch the whole thing. Made life far easier, although I did have to remove and reinstall one of the diodes that had been fitted the wrong way round.
 
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Daddiator

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Hi Ianrobbo1,
I plan on having a go this weekend, if its successful I will post a few picks. If it all goes tits up then I wil be looking for a new headlight unit on ebay!
Thanks for the advice madlandrover, haven't yet worked out how to power it all through relays etc, might try my basic idea first and go from there.
 

ianrobbo1

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FAO Daddiator, you could ask Mado to post a few pictures to help you?? I'm sure he could "find" a camera somewhere :rolleyes:
 

madlandrover

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This is the latest version of the loom I used - as I said, I cheated, also moved the high beam connector into the spare spot in the low beam socket to trigger via a single loom.
 
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Daddiator

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Hi, Thanks for the link but I am still a little confused. How would this loom help with the flasher not working when the lights are off? Also, my bird's low beam does not turn off when the high beam is switched on? I am going to have a go tomorrow so will see if it will work using the existing loom first but if not then I will have a re-think. My biggest concern is splitting the headlamp without breaking it but having read your method I am a little more confident.
 

madlandrover

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The aim of the loom is to keep constant power supply to the ballasts no matter whether high or low beam are selected - obviously as you say in normal use the low beam remains on when high is selected so that's simple, but the flasher only powers high beam. The loom will take power from either high or low beam wires so as long as at least one headlight wire is live then the bulbs will come on. I bought rather than building to make life easy, someone better than me at electronics could build their own easily enough.
 
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