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What the ? Poppy wearing
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Out and about in town today, with SWMBO and one thing that we both noticed was that (apart from the local army cadets selling them) no-one under the age of 30 was wearing a poppy.
A bit disappointing, really.
I respect the pereonal choice around wearing poppies.
However, I do not respect the growing movement that says that wearing a poppy is glorifying war.
If they had to live through a war they may think otherwise.
For once I ageee with you. Wearing a poppy does not glorify war. It’s a mark of respect for those who paid the ultimate price so that we now don’t all have blonde hair, blue eyes and march to work singing the Horst Wessel song. And, latterly but of no less significance, our boys and girls who paid the same price defending the Falklands and those trying to stamp out the terrorist twats in the Middle East. And then there’s those that are involved in ‘conflicts’ that we haven’t heard of, nor will we ever hear of.
It’s about rememberance and respect. Anyone who says otherwise is crassly and intolerably ignorant.
RIP.
HEAR HEAR.
I think all my jackets have a enamel poppy pin badge & they stay on there forever because its not just one day, it counts all the time, I donate what I can when I can to the legion too because it matters to me! upmost respect to all those who have served in any capacity
Its a sore point between me & a very good mate he's very political & seems to think I support the government for sending out lads & lasses into danger (which I don't) I cant get it through to him that when it comes down to it those folks are not fighting for any political ideal but simply for the bloke stood next to them & that should be respected, its now become a subject we have to avoid or we will end up starting our own small scale war
Its a sore point between me & a very good mate he's very political & seems to think I support the government for sending out lads & lasses into danger (which I don't) I cant get it through to him that when it comes down to it those folks are not fighting for any political ideal but simply for the bloke stood next to them & that should be respected, its now become a subject we have to avoid or we will end up starting our own small scale war
It's not just about those who have paid the ultimate price, it's also about those who paid a price in terms of mental and/or physical injuries, to defend the freedoms that we enjoy....and despite the incessant moaning from some elements of society, we do enjoy freedom. There are plenty of ex-service personnel still alive who continue to suffer, by buying a poppy or two I see that as a way of contributing towards the cost of rehabilitation. It's the least we can do.
I think all my jackets have a enamel poppy pin badge & they stay on there forever because its not just one day, it counts all the time, I donate what I can when I can to the legion too because it matters to me! upmost respect to all those who have served in any capacity
Its a sore point between me & a very good mate he's very political & seems to think I support the government for sending out lads & lasses into danger (which I don't) I cant get it through to him that when it comes down to it those folks are not fighting for any political ideal but simply for the bloke stood next to them & that should be respected, its now become a subject we have to avoid or we will end up starting our own small scale war
Yep. Never ceases to amaze me how supposedly intelligent civvies can come to that conclusion.
When I went home on leave after coming back from down south, I got it in the neck from my mum (an intelligent and committed nurse in her day), of all people, for doing Maggies bidding...! To make matters worse...one of my sisters was at uni in Glasgow at the time and was spending too much time in the company of a very left-wing bunch of student layabouts. With her naive "I'm at university so I know stuff and you're just a dumb instrument of government" arrogance, she just fanned the flames further, which caused a rift that never really healed.
Did you mean ‘Here Here.’ ??
The greatest showing of respect for those that lost their lives I have seen is in Kings College Chapel in Cambridge. There is a huge monument in the chapel listing all the names of those that fell who were attending Kings, I can't remember if WW1 or WW2. The final entry is a German. Those attending the college fought long and hard to have his name added after the memorial was unveiled.
To me that is what wearing a poppy is about.
To me that is what wearing a poppy is about.
Time to get a new mate !comes down to it those folks are not fighting for any political ideal but simply for the bloke stood next to them & that should be respected, its now become a subject we have to avoid or we will end up starting our own small scale war
He obviously has little respect for his fellow countrymen and women who died in his name
I see what you are saying but its not quite like that, this lad will stand toe to toe with anyone in defence of his mates & I'd trust him with my life any day, apart from his view on the military or more accurately the government who controls it he's a brilliant bloke who would have made an excellent soldier himself if it were not for his political views
Personally I detest the fact that our government sends our lads & lasses off to fight and die in unwinnable battles for their own political or financial gain & wish it didn't happen so I understand his view even though I don't agree with it.
For me the poppy appeal is simply to support those who have served & suffered because they were brave & committed enough to do so nothing more & that's the bit he cant see, pity really as he's a good bloke in every other way
Haven't seen them here in Limerick yet.
Dodgy issue over here needless to say.
Don't know how many died in both wars but the option wasn't great.
It came up in recent presidential election.
Republican candidate said she would wear poppy as president!!!
I think she lost grass root votes.
Like everything else here, it's complicated
Dodgy issue over here needless to say.
Don't know how many died in both wars but the option wasn't great.
It came up in recent presidential election.
Republican candidate said she would wear poppy as president!!!
I think she lost grass root votes.
Like everything else here, it's complicated
There is also the bollocks about white poppies now.........
Ffs.....
Ffs.....
Just think of it as the modern equivalent to the white feather.
I understand that Ireland has a complicated relationship with the rest of the UK, but I don't see why wearing a poppy in Eire shoud be such a problem. Lots of Irish lads and a few Irish ladies, no doubt, served in the British forces during both wars...and more besides. When those who survived returned to Eire they were treated as traitors. I can't imagine how crushing that was for them.
If I was in the South now I'd definitely wear a poppy in the run up to Armistice Day and I'd have words with anyone who had a problem with it. It's about remembering those who served and especially those who fell or were wounded....whoever they were.
Nobody really wins a war. Everyone suffers, regardless of what side they were on....some by dying and others by living.
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I'm of the opinion the poppy, represents ALL that died in wars all over the planet and absolutely NOTHING to do with politic/religion/race, I do however believe that any future "wars" should be fought by the politicians involved, we'll see how many are started then!!
If you speak to veterans, many of them don’t have an issue with the white poppy, it is actually a statement of support for the fallen but wishing peace for the future which in a twisted way is what war is about, to bring peace.
How many in UK know about this.
Illustrates the complexity.
https://www.historyireland.com/20th...the-connaught-rangers-mutiny-india-july-1920/
But then we do have this.
http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/dublin/warmemorialgardens/
49,400 died in WW1
Illustrates the complexity.
https://www.historyireland.com/20th...the-connaught-rangers-mutiny-india-july-1920/
But then we do have this.
http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/dublin/warmemorialgardens/
49,400 died in WW1
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I'm not a fan of the white poppy. The significance of the red poppy is in where it started to grow after the Armistice and the red colour has another, obvious message.