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Just the beginning for Andy?

Pow-Lo

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So why not push for criminal action to get him banged up. Unless the money will make it hurt less than him doing time for his crimes.
Spot on. If someone did me a serious wrong, I’d want them locked up.
 

derek kelly

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Don’t know what went wrong there.

I believe the USA are trying to avoid a diplomatic incident so will not treat it as a legal case
 

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That totally overlooks the damage that has been /may have been done to her (I’m not judging as I have no idea) - it has been established that there was exploitation going on in the Epstein world, why should time be a barrier to making those involved accountable? If it had been a priest involved with young boys would you want it time barred?

Her legal representative David Bois is a real piece of work…I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end.

I still find it hard to believe how Andrew got embroiled in this…surely someone should have been telling him to disengage from Epstein. Surely someone should have been telling him not to do the near suicidal itv interview. I have always thought he was alright, sadly to me he is now coming across as someone who has been incredibly naive and possibly felt entitled. I suppose yet another example of someone being born into an unreal world.

I wonder how this is going to affect the value of my mint condition in box Bells Andrew & Fergie commemorative whishy decanter?

Looks like you have already started drinking it. :D
 

slim63

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Spot on. If someone did me a serious wrong, I’d want them locked up.
So would many of us but nobody is ever going to lock up a royal in this day and age so the next best thing is to make him suffer as much as possible financially and to lose his titles etc as is already happening

That along with the stress and pressure he must be under should cause him serious harm mentally if not physically, we all know whatever happens next he will be allowed to sail along under the radar supported by the queen etc but for a man that has enjoyed so much privilege his whole life that's got to hurt
 

Pow-Lo

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So would many of us but nobody is ever going to lock up a royal in this day and age so the next best thing is to make him suffer as much as possible financially and to lose his titles etc as is already happening

That along with the stress and pressure he must be under should cause him serious harm mentally if not physically, we all know whatever happens next he will be allowed to sail along under the radar supported by the queen etc but for a man that has enjoyed so much privilege his whole life that's got to hurt
The loss of his titles is, at this stage at least, more a case of dynastic preservation. If he’s found to be guilty, he could do irrevocable damage to the Royals so cutting him loose now was a pre-emptive, and very smart, strike.

Alternative stories are starting to emerge now about her having psychological issues relating to ‘false memories’, amongst other things. Andy’s lawyers are seeking to question her husband and her psychiatrist.

Whatever happens, this is going to get messy. If he’s truly innocent, I sincerely hope he doesn’t settle and takes this all the way. If that were me and I’d done her no wrong, I wouldn’t give her a f’ing penny and I’d countersue in the process. Actually, I’d do far worse than that for accusing me on the world stage of some very heinous crimes.
 

derek kelly

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Regardless of whatever Andy’s defence try to come up with, Andy has clearly met her & denied it
 

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Regardless of whatever Andy’s defence try to come up with, Andy has clearly met her & denied it
He said ‘I can’t remember meeting her’.

Not quite the same thing. I’m sure there are thousands of people on the planet who can’t remember meeting me :oops:
 

Duck n Dive

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I wonder how many people he's met over the years.
I wonder how many people have wanted photos of themselves or their friends with him.
I wonder how many social, private and public events he's been at over the years.

I'm sure that on each and every count it's way more than me.

And I definitely can't remember each person, each occasion and what I said.
 

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I wonder how many people he's met over the years.
I wonder how many people have wanted photos of themselves or their friends with him.
I wonder how many social, private and public events he's been at over the years.

I'm sure that on each and every count it's way more than me.

And I definitely can't remember each person, each occasion and what I said.
Enough about me, can we get back to Mr Windsor please.
 

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I wonder how many people he's met over the years.
I wonder how many people have wanted photos of themselves or their friends with him.
I wonder how many social, private and public events he's been at over the years.

I'm sure that on each and every count it's way more than me.

And I definitely can't remember each person, each occasion and what I said.
I've only porked one 17 year old girl (I was 18 at the time) and I still remember her now. Banged like a belt fed mortar.

I bet just about any bloke in his 30s who managed to get horizontal with a 17 year old would remember it for sure.
 

Malone

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I've only porked one 17 year old girl (I was 18 at the time) and I still remember her now. Banged like a belt fed mortar.

I bet just about any bloke in his 30s who managed to get horizontal with a 17 year old would remember it for sure.
Perhaps he can’t remember her because she was just one of many fed to him by his pal over the years

Guilty by association, good enough for me to judge him
 

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just watched the gutter journalism programme broadcast on itv last night….to me it is already becoming pretty obvious that the lawyers are getting plenty of post trial ammunition to challenge the case against Ghislaine Maxwell. fFS one of the jurors was being interviewed and was obviously enjoying every minute of his fifteen minutes of fame while spouting off as if he was a leading expert on abuse.

I am not saying she is innocent, but the media are again causing mayhem and may well unduly influence justice being served.
 
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