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Irish Ancestry ...I dont get it ....

eddyace595

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Jo Biden is a case in point....What is this fixation in America with having Irish ancestors
and considering themselves Irish ????
My mother and her clan all came to England from Belfast in the 1960s...Yes I know its Ulster
and not the actual Republic..Which i suppose technically makes me half Mick....
I fact they were Proddies with Scottish surnames..Wray on the one side and Duncan on the other.So that
will be the legions Of Jocks who settled over there hundreds of years ago...
Which makes me a total Mutt...
But I am born and bred in England..and consider myself a proud Englishman....My brother
feels exactly the same
I have nothing against Ireland..It seem a lovely place with friendly people so I am told...
Maybe one day I will go..But I bet that I have more of a connection to Ireland than most Americans ever will..
..Mmmmmm strange.
 

Pow-Lo

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I don’t get it either.

We have American friends that when asked where they’re from will say something like ‘Italy and Germany’ because that’s where their great great great (repeat ad nauseum) grandparents were from.

Mrs P and me were in a bar in Florida about 20 years ago when two older American guys asked us where we were from. ‘Wales and Ireland’, says we. One of these twats said he was Irish and Mrs P asked him what part of Ireland he was from, to which he replied ‘Syracuse, New York’. He didn’t appreciate being told that made him American. It was even funnier because Mrs P had her Boggy passport on the bar as she’d just been age checked before the bar staff would serve her.
 

Squag1

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Neither do I but we make a lot of money on it from tourism and industrially.

They don't even recognise the real Americans.
Hopi Navajo people suffering greatly in pandemic. Something like 30% have NO running water- in 2020.

There was a feature on radio a few months ago about it and Irish people donated thousands. Article recently told that they thought that they were being hacked because of much activity on the site from the same location - Ireland.

The Choctaw donated to Ireland during the famine and that has never been forgotton.
They have come over to join in a famine walk here which parallels with a walk in US that they did. In both walks people starved died.




3 small shops to serve 3,000 people
 

Cougar377

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When I was on secondment to Greenham Common I got very pissed off with Yank airmen coming up to me and saying...

"Say, you're from Scotland, aintcha..?"
"Yes"
"Well, I'm [insert number here] generation Scottish and I've still got relatives there. They're called [insert scottish surname here]. D'ya know them..?".
"Eh no. Scotland's not a village. It's a country of 5 million people."

The look of disappointment on their faces was something to see.
 

slim63

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Yanks are obsessed with history and where they originate from because they are still a new nation by comparison and are still struggling to find an identity

While in older nations such as ours its all around us EG there are buildings within a few hundred yards of here that predate the sailing of the mayflower never mind the forming of the us of a

Hence the septics trying to cotton on to other peoples history imo its laughable
 

Cougar377

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Yanks are obsessed with history and where they originate from because they are still a new nation by comparison and are still struggling to find an identity

While in older nations such as ours its all around us EG there are buildings within a few hundred yards of here that predate the sailing of the mayflower never mind the forming of the us of a

Hence the septics trying to cotton on to other peoples history imo its laughable
I worked with an Iranian guy a few years ago and I remember a conversation we had about America's relationship with the Arab world.
The gist of it was that they had no respect for the Yanks for the reason you mentioned. A new nation made up of immigrants who had no established history of their own.
Despite their distrust of the British he said that Arabs had far more respect for us than America as we had a history worth talking about.
 

andyBeaker

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On the flip side the American road system is much better than ours as it largely isn't made up from cart tracks that have been widened over the years.
 

Pow-Lo

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I worked with an Iranian guy a few years ago and I remember a conversation we had about America's relationship with the Arab world.
The gist of it was that they had no respect for the Yanks for the reason you mentioned. A new nation made up of immigrants who had no established history of their own.
Despite their distrust of the British he said that Arabs had far more respect for us than America as we had a history worth talking about.
I don’t understand how the Native Americans have allowed themselves to be treated the way they have, like they don’t belong there. For a start, it’s their country! They also have an identity, a history and a culture.

Another thing I don’t get, is the fascination to have a f’ing Irish bar everywhere. What is so special about Irish bars that every major city in the world has to have one, FFS.
 

ogr1

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I don’t understand how the Native Americans have allowed themselves to be treated the way they have, like they don’t belong there. For a start, it’s their country! They also have an identity, a history and a culture.
Errrrrm...I think 'Custer' had summat to do with that.
 

Pow-Lo

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Errrrrm...I think 'Custer' had summat to do with that.
He did indeed. However, with every other ethnic group demanding rights for this, that and other I'd like to see the Native Americans have a bit more. Like I said, it's their country after all.
 

Lee337

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I was in Italy on a group tour around 7 years ago, the tour company was amrican so was mostly amrecan couples. we were one of only 5 British on the tour. Speaking to two couples from New York, they said they were on the tour as they were Italian & wanted to see where they came from.

A few days later, most of the tour party headed to an Irish bar in Pelugia (I think it was) to pay respects to their Irish heritage. That inckuded the two couples from New York who were previously banging on about their Italian ancestry.

We left them to it & found a nice little Bistro in a back street, accompanied by the tour guide. Despite his job with an amrecan tour company, he had little to say about the yanks, except that they tipped well, but any time he could spend away from them was, in his opinion, was a bonus.
 

Squag1

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My grandmother was Blundell I'm some sort of half breed.:oops:

Lots of "Irish" names are Norman?
Fitzgerald, Fitzmaurice, Burke (deBurgo)
Dillon (deLeon/Lion) Darcy (D'Arcy I think) Duffy and lots more. Think we should have a campaign to send them home.

I don't get the Irish bar either. Keep well clear. I was in a bar in some Spanish resort (all the same to me) when guy with guitar starts singing Irish songs from 70s.
"Anybody here from Ireland" couldn't wait to get out.
 
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