You'll Hate this Hamilcock

[slim63]

Accepts a knighthood and is a Member of the order of the British Empire (MBE)

I thought the Empire was exactly what he was against with his racist views, radical BLM tendencies etc

Am I the only one who hoped Charlie boy thought well you are taking the knee properly now, I have a bloody great sword, now is my chance, shame Phillip wasn't still around to sort that one out

Discuss

 

[ogr1]

Well at least he went down on one knee.
He was probably tempted to do the black
power salute too, but Charlie wielding that sword kinda changed his mind.

 

[derek kelly]

He lives abroad, he pays his taxes abroad, he drives a German car, he hates the British white establishment & he gets a friggin knighthood.

 

[Cougar377]

He lives abroad, he pays his taxes abroad, he drives a German car, he hates the British white establishment & he gets a friggin knighthood.

Yet his mother is white.

 

[derek kelly]

Yet his mother is white.

He identifies as black.

 

[Squag1]

Yet his mother is white.

A long time ago in here, for the craic, I asked, who are the English. I wasn't even thinking of people of colour at the time.

I can equally ask, who are the Irish.
Bourke, Dillon, Darcy,
Barry, Butler, Power etc are Norman names.

Viking names are, Cotter, Dowdall, Howard, Reynolds.......

So how many generations do you have to live in a country to be native.

There's a well worn quote in history books about the planted people, "they became more Irish than the Irish themselves"

A lot of the early rebellions were led by Protestants, another contradiction.

Luckily in the 50s or thereabouts, I believe, the Irish being white, escaped a lot of discrimination in UK.

It's interesting to see the Irish names cropping up in high level jobs in in UK in the last number of years.
It's also interesting to see the number of Brits working in Ireland now.

When I can, I enjoy saying "we spent 900 years getting you out, now we're letting you all back in"

Finally, racism is very much based on where you stand on the day and who you think you are.

 

[Pow-Lo]

I was the victim of racism three times in almost six years living in Singapore. I didn't feel like crying into my fried rice and then starting a riot the next day but I was quite annoyed. My point is that racism is not defined as a white person abusing a non-white person, as the likes of BLM would have us believe. Anyone can be the victim of racism.

I had three encounters, one with a group of teenage boys; one boy in his twenties/thirties; and, one guy about my age. With the exception of the guy my age, I wanted to spark the other fuckers out. If I had have done, I'd have been arrested and deported so thought better of it (way too many witnesses and it was on public transport, which has cctv). The teenage boys will think twice before trying a stunt like they pulled again but the twenties/thirties kid was an arrogant bastard who most likely won't learn, even if picking his teeth up with broken fingers.

As for Hamilton's knighthood, there's no denying he's pretty good behind the wheel of a F1 car. I don't see why he shouldn't get one given that they seem to be handed out like bog paper these days, a trend started by Tony B.Liar. However, it's a shame he doesn't use his position as a prominent person of colour to speak out and simply state that all discrimination is wrong, even when it's positive. That would be a far more powerful message.

 

[Cougar377]

He identifies as black.

But he's light brown.

 

[Malone]

Could have come out checkered like a finish flag

 

[Squag1]

Only happened once in UK.
Might even have been in Wales.
Was on way home to ferry in car fully loaded about 1980.

I stopped at a filling station to top up and decided to get oil as well. There were no other people at the station and I think there were 4 pumps in a large forecourt.
I lifted the bonnet to top up the oil.
Next thing I knew the guy was at my elbow telling me to get my car out of the way.

He had no problem taking my money though.

I worked in the Palace Hotel in Southport in summer 1965. There was a chef, ex army, who always called me Paddy. He used to challenge me to box him in the stomach, to what end I don't know. He was a big guy in every way.
I was really afraid of him.

It never bothered me being called Paddy.

 

[Cougar377]

A long time ago in here, for the craic, I asked, who are the English. I wasn't even thinking of people of colour at the time.

I can equally ask, who are the Irish.
Bourke, Dillon, Darcy,
Barry, Butler, Power etc are Norman names.

Viking names are, Cotter, Dowdall, Howard, Reynolds.......

So how many generations do you have to live in a country to be native.

There's a well worn quote in history books about the planted people, "they became more Irish than the Irish themselves"

A lot of the early rebellions were led by Protestants, another contradiction.

Luckily in the 50s or thereabouts, I believe, the Irish being white, escaped a lot of discrimination in UK.

It's interesting to see the Irish names cropping up in high level jobs in in UK in the last number of years.
It's also interesting to see the number of Brits working in Ireland now.

When I can, I enjoy saying "we spent 900 years getting you out, now we're letting you all back in"

Finally, racism is very much based on where you stand on the day and who you think you are.

One of the most "interesting" experiences I had regarding prejudices was when I was on detachment to Greenham Common. USAF personnel who had never previously left the USA had some funny, but also hard to believe, preconceived ideas about the English, Irish, Scots and Welsh. Many of them expected to see bowler hat wearing Englishmen everywhere, they thought every Irish person would be short, redhaired and freckled, they thought all Scots wore kilts, or at least tartan and they thought Wales only had two occupations - shepherding or coalmining and that everyone sang all the time like some sort of real life musical. One guy I remember even asked me if Scotland and England were still at war. Another guy wanted to know if you could still find Vikings in the north. Many of them seemed to think that if they went to London then they'd definitely see and even meet the Queen.

My personal favourite, which eventually drove me nuts, was Yanks coming up to me and telling me they were 4th/5th/6th generation Scots and they had distant relatives called MacDonald, or whatever, back in the old country and did I know them.... Like we all came from a big feckin' village.

 

[jerryt]

My parents always told me 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but Names will never hurt me!'

 

[Martin L Batley]

In all honesty it bugs me when professional sports people get gongs for, let's face it, doing their job. A job they get shed loads of money for doing and which they are probably avoiding paying full tax on too.

 

[derek kelly]

My parents always told me 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but Names will never hurt me!'

To market, to market with my uncle Jim
When somebody threw a tomato at him
Tomatoes don’t hurt he said with a grin
But these bastards did, they were still in the tin