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Cougar377

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Wrong way around. The first try was dodgy; England didn’t have time to reset. Theres no blaming Wales though, Dan Biggar asked the ref if he could play the quick penalty.

Second try, no knock on. The ball hit Rees-Zammit’s leg and went backwards before it hit the ground. Those are the rules, quit whining and suck it up.

England’s ill discipline cost them dearly. That whinging twat Farrell (who’s also a cheating fuckpig - it’s ok when he’s getting away with murder, but how very dare anyone else) was lucky to stay on the pitch after mouthing off at the ref. I can’t remember the last time I saw any first class player do that! The man is a ladyparts and needs to be dropped. Maro Itoje was caught offside at least half a dozen times (although I think two of those decisions were borderline) and you can’t do that at international level. He also conceded five of the 14 penalties against England.

Not the best game I’ve ever seen but a win is a win.

As for England, if it were up to me I’d do two things on Monday morning:
1. Sack Eddie Jones. If he can’t control England’s piss poor discipline then find another coach who can.
2. Drop that wanker Farrell and make Itoje captain. A superb athlete and natural leader, he would do for England what Alun Wyn Jones has done for us.
I definitely think Zammit forward passed. The ball goes from his rearward hand to his forward hand and then down to his leg.
 

Cougar377

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I didn't know he was gay too?
My point is I couldn't give a fug who is what, but it had feck all in respect to the game showing.
Maybe they should change the ball profile.
It's obviously having an effect on some players.
It don't know if Davies is gay, but he's certainly an irritating cocksucker.
 

Pow-Lo

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I definitely think Zammit forward passed. The ball goes from his rearward hand to his forward hand and then down to his leg.
It looked that way, yes. However, it’s not a knock on if the ball goes backwards before it goes to ground. It’s the direction of movement of the ball immediately before it hits the ground that counts.

Remember Capmese’s famous try for the Wallabies (against France, if memory serves but I’m not sure) where he initially failed to catch the ball, juggled it up the line for half the length of the pitch, every touch made the ball go forward, but it didn’t ground. He eventually kept a hold and scored and the try stood.
 

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At the end of the day, England lost take it on the chin and move on. Its OK to analyse what went wrong in order to fix it but quit moaning like a baby whose had his dummy taken away. Personally I think the root cause of England's problems is that they are fielding too many players who aren't playing club rugby. This leaves them, a little of their game, blunted, rusty, take your pick. The problem of too many penalties stems from this too.
 

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At the end of the day, England lost take it on the chin and move on. Its OK to analyse what went wrong in order to fix it but quit moaning like a baby whose had his dummy taken away. Personally I think the root cause of England's problems is that they are fielding too many players who aren't playing club rugby. This leaves them, a little of their game, blunted, rusty, take your pick. The problem of too many penalties stems from this too.
Wales deserved to win do doubt about that! dont get excited I wont be saying that again ;)

But a lot of the England errors stemmed from anger & frustration at very poor, very biased refereeing, even the welsh players had the decency to look embarrassed by it, 99% of the time the knock on would have been given on field, even Zammet thought it was one!

Penalty against for Itoje for offside when the ball was clearly out is another example of biased refereeing (although he was clearly offside more than once he wasn't EVERY time (frustration showing again)

On the other incident Owen was doing as he was told & would undoubtedly the ref would have found a way penalise him if he didn't, Owen knew he was walking a thin line as he had already been gobby to the ref (twat for that) No doubt the ref was unfair there, in the normal course of play allowing a quick penalty would be fine but after giving an instruction like that it was blatant cheating, i am surprised someone didnt flatten him to be honest ( in a sunday league the ladyparts wouldn't have woken up yet)
I will be even more surprised if he refs another top flight match

So the welsh won but you dont hear a single one crowing about it as they know the odds were stacked in their favour from the start, its a credit to them that they are keeping reasonably quiet
No proper sportsman would accept that game as being right from the first whistle to the last
 

Pow-Lo

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Wales deserved to win do doubt about that! dont get excited I wont be saying that again ;)

But a lot of the England errors stemmed from anger & frustration at very poor, very biased refereeing, even the welsh players had the decency to look embarrassed by it, 99% of the time the knock on would have been given on field, even Zammet thought it was one!

Penalty against for Itoje for offside when the ball was clearly out is another example of biased refereeing (although he was clearly offside more than once he wasn't EVERY time (frustration showing again)

On the other incident Owen was doing as he was told & would undoubtedly the ref would have found a way penalise him if he didn't, Owen knew he was walking a thin line as he had already been gobby to the ref (twat for that) No doubt the ref was unfair there, in the normal course of play allowing a quick penalty would be fine but after giving an instruction like that it was blatant cheating, i am surprised someone didnt flatten him to be honest ( in a sunday league the ladyparts wouldn't have woken up yet)
I will be even more surprised if he refs another top flight match

So the welsh won but you dont hear a single one crowing about it as they know the odds were stacked in their favour from the start, its a credit to them that they are keeping reasonably quiet
No proper sportsman would accept that game as being right from the first whistle to the last
As I've said above, a win is a win but I'm not crowing about it. We would've won anyway but I don't like the manner in which some of the points were scored.

The first try was dodgy, for sure. Dan Biggar did ask Pierre Le Biased-French-Twat if he could take the quick pen and the ref said he could. If I heard the TV correctly, he actually asked if time was back on.

With the benefit of video refs, the second try was not a knock on. Yes, the ball initially went forward but it didn't touch the ground; before the ball did touch the ground, it dropped to Zammit's leg and went backwards, therefore no knock on. I must admit, I also thought it was a knock on when watched in real time. Only after I saw the replays was I sure it wasn't a knock on.

Itoje is a great player but he does sail extremely close to the wind. In training, there was always a lot of fights but not so much these days. Alun Wyn Jones started most of them but since he was made captain, he's wound it in a bit and channelled his fury more appropriately. If Itoje was made captain, he'd be a lot less of a liability and a much better player for it.

Farrell really does need to be dropped and then taken to one side and slapped. He's a petulant little twat who's only happy when he's allowed to get away with his misdemeanours. The other teams have wised up to this clown and he's going to be targeted more and more until he learns to play nicely.

I doubt we'll see that ref officiating over a top flight game ever again.
 
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