In the News F*cking bitch

[Cougar377]

https://www.forces.net/military-lif...may-blocked-amnesty-northern-ireland-veterans

So we're no better than terrorists in May's eyes.

 

[noobie]

If it's true, it won't help with the current difficulties to recruit. Why would you want to defend queen and country without protection from our own politicians flip flopping and possibly leaving you victims to a political appeasement.

 

[andyBeaker]

The article states that there is no desire to give anyone better legal protections than others?

Am I missing something??

Genuine question.

 

[ianrobbo1]

FFS the woman's a barmpot, She is REALLY going all out to fuck this country up, I really really hope someone does the twat in, the sooner the better, has she been taking lessons off that other traitor Corbyn? it certainly seems like it!!

 

[derek kelly]

A soldier is trained to kill, he is sent to a war zone to kill, his training is paid for by the Government.
If I wanted somebody bumped off & paid a hitman I would be dealt with at least as severely as the hitman,
If Soldiers can be found guilty of murder then our Government should be charged with hiring assassins

 

[Cougar377]

The article states that there is no desire to give anyone better legal protections than others?

Am I missing something??

Genuine question.

Yes Andy, you are. Terrorists (there's a hint in the name) are not legitimate combatants. They do not represent a state, country or legally recognised organisation. Yet they are "accorded" equal protection under law, for their actions.
It would be like saying that a gangster has legal protection for his violent and illegal actions because he is a legitimate representative of organised crime.

And before you say it... One man's terrorist is NOT another man's freedom fighter. Not for me and anyone else who has served in NI and seen what those supposed "freedom fighters" do to the innocent bystander.

 

[andyBeaker]

Yes Andy, you are. Terrorists (there's a hint in the name) are not legitimate combatants. They do not represent a state, country or legally recognised organisation. Yet they are "accorded" equal protection under law, for their actions.
It would be like saying that a gangster has legal protection for his violent and illegal actions because he is a legitimate representative of organised crime.

And before you say it... One man's terrorist is NOT another man's freedom fighter. Not for me and anyone else who has served in NI and seen what those supposed "freedom fighters" do to the innocent bystander.

I wasn't going to say it!!

 

[Cougar377]

I wasn't going to say it!!

Bet you were ..!

 

[noobie]

I believe the bit that stood out was it emerged that plans to strengthen legal protections for military personnel who served on overseas operations such as Iraq and Afghanistan would not apply to those who had served in Northern Ireland.

It's difficult in here as we are a U.K. forum but also have members from Ireland. Where soldiers have gone beyond their remit under the geneva convention then you understand why things are looked at. That said the complaint of the current and for many years is the asking for equality of purpose.

If you are going to hold an historic investigation, it fails the minute terrorists are given pardons and get out of jail vouchers and soldiers have a life sentence of not knowing if they will be chased based on allegations, till their dying day.

I read some time ago that in the same year as bloody sunday 160 armed forces and police personal were murdered, I don't know if that is true or not. If it is it shows an unacceptable level of distortion on who these commissions are going after with a heavy foot against one side whilst the other barely gets a whisper.

 

[Cougar377]

A soldier is trained to kill, he is sent to a war zone to kill, his training is paid for by the Government.
If I wanted somebody bumped off & paid a hitman I would be dealt with at least as severely as the hitman,
If Soldiers can be found guilty of murder then our Government should be charged with hiring assassins

At the end of WWII they put all the Nazi hierarchy on trial at Nuremberg, because they were the senior officer corp ultimately responsible.
Here, they go looking for the scapegoats at the bottom end of the military food chain.

As the Yanks say, "go figure"

Rudyard Kipling wrote "Tommy" in 1890.

 

[derek kelly]

Rudyard Kipling wrote "Tommy" in 1890.

I thought it was “The Who” that wrote it........




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Sorry.

 

[Squag1]

Problem is......
Should I start......
I find it difficult not to so that people might understand better.

UK never did much for N.I. other than throw money at it.

People in UK have no idea at all of the complexities of N.I. As she said - I didn't realise Protestants only vote "Unionist" and Catholics only vote Republican.

I had that proven at the rally.
When I did my best to explain to somebody , when asked, what it was about, they were gobsmacked, might be the word. They didn't realise either.

Problem with prosecution is the claim that victims were not involved/hadn't got guns.

Yes the "CEO" should also have to answer.

Another soldier gave evidence few days ago but I'm not going to quote it. It was a bit of a shock for the inquiry.

Two soldiers with conflicting evidence it seems.

This is a topic best discussed face to face.

 

[Squag1]

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I read some time ago that in the same year as bloody sunday 160 armed forces and police personal were murdered, I don't know if that is true or not. If it is it shows an unacceptable level of distortion on who these commissions are going after with a heavy foot against one side whilst the other barely gets a whisper.[/QUOTE]

There were more innocent civilians killed by The IRA than police/army who were killed . I think it is in thousands.