Enjoy it While You Can...

Discussion in 'The Sports section' started by Dark Angel, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Dark Angel

    Dark Angel ...Been there. Read Only

    ...or not...!
  2. noobie

    noobie Clueless in most things Club Sponsor

    All they have to do is appeal, stall it in the court for 24 months and viola, up yours European court.
  3. sr71caspar

    sr71caspar B̶a̶n̶n̶e̶d̶ Club Sponsor

    Or this bit-

    "if our government does not exempt it from a blanket vehicle insurance law."

    Bit of scaremongering, I think.
  4. Dark Angel

    Dark Angel ...Been there. Read Only

    From the government Impact Assessment document

    "Experience from the Netherlands and Finland is a helpful starting point. Here the cost of such a product is around 5,000 Euros per driver per annum.
    When compulsory competitor-to-competitor third party liability insurance was introduced in Finland it effectively ended grassroots motorsport in the
    country because this cost became prohibitive for the amateur motorsport enthusiast. However, for the UK, the cost could be considerably higher as a
    result of personal injury claims requiring cover and with medical expenses being recoverable."

    From https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesoci...ation-could-mark-the-end-of-bike-racing-in-uk

    "The insurance industry has made it clear to government that third party risks for motorsport activities are uninsurable, not least because of the sheer
    number of potential vehicle damage claims that would arise. Therefore, if implemented, the Vnuk judgment would wipe out all legal motor and motorcycle
    sport activity."
  5. Lee337

    Lee337 Confused Poster Club Sponsor

    Unfortunately, it's not just motorsport that will be affected. I'm reading the consultation document at the moment (while Mrs does xmas wrapping) and the list of 'newly-in-scope' vehicles include electrically assisted pedal cycles, construction vehicles, agricultural vehicles, segways, ride-on lawnmowers, motor sports vehicles, mobility scooters, golf buggies, motorised ride-on children’s toys, fairground rides (e.g. dodgems), fork lift trucks, dumper trucks, engineering plant and quad bikes (off-road construction).

    Just think of all that extra cash by way of Insurance Premium Tax the Govt. will get out of this.

    Being a bike forum, I think there's a couple of vehicles there that could potentially mean we have additional insutrance costs, specifically mobility scooters and golf buggies. :eek:
  6. Dark Angel

    Dark Angel ...Been there. Read Only

    Hmmm... the politics of distraction...

  7. Dark Angel

    Dark Angel ...Been there. Read Only

    Excepts from the Government Document:

    "Options for amending domestic motor insurance law in light of the European Court of Justice ruling in the case of Damijan Vnuk".

    On 23 June 2016, the EU referendum took place and the people of the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union.
    Until exit negotiations are concluded, the UK remains a full member of the European Union and all the rights and obligations of EU
    membership remain in force.
    During this period the Government will continue to negotiate, implement and apply EU legislation.

    (...) This consultation stage impact assessment sets out an analysis of options around extending the scope of compulsory motor insurance
    in line with the Directive following the Vnuk judgment. Unusually, it assesses two options which are mutually exclusive; option 2 which
    reflects European law as it currently stands in light of the Vnuk judgment (which would involve a significant change to domestic legislation);
    and option 3 which reflects European law as Government considers it is likely to look if the Directive is amended in line with proposals put
    forward by the Commission (this would increase the scope of which vehicles require motor insurance in which situations, and hence more
    victims would have a straightforward route to compensation, but not expand the scope as widely as if implementing the Directive as it stands).

    (...) Given the UK?s position as a full Member State of the EU, it is incumbent on the Government to take the necessary steps to comply
    with the Directive as soon as possible. So long as the UK?s domestic legislation is out of step with EU law, victims of accidents involving
    motor vehicles do not have a route to compensation envisaged in the Directive (as interpreted by the Vnuk judgment); this exposes
    Government to risk.
    That is why we must set in train the preparatory work to amend domestic legislation now rather than waiting for the Directive to
    be amended. We want to be in a position to amend our legislation swiftly and smoothly once the Directive has been amended.

    Full Text: "Technical Consultation on Motor Insurance" Here

    View the Government?s Impact Assessment Document Here
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2017

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