Can Putin be THIS mad ?

[Jaws]

Laying awake last night I had a very nasty thought
Putin wants a buffer between Russia and NATO
What if the attack on the nuclear plant was very deliberate, going for a Chernobyl scenario ?
There is no better buffer than a radioactive wasteland
What is further worrying is now that plan has failed, will he order the use of a small device to do the same job ?

I never got much sleep last night after that

 

[Minkey]

Laying awake last night I had a very nasty thought
Putin wants a buffer between Russia and NATO
What if the attack on the nuclear plant was very deliberate, going for a Chernobyl scenario ?
There is no better buffer than a radioactive wasteland
What is further worrying is now that plan has failed, will he order the use of a small device to do the same job ?

I never got much sleep last night after that

I wouldn't be surprised if he did something and it is very worrying

 

[johnboy]

My advice, if you can influence it then worry about it. I suspect like me, you have no influence therefore put it out of your mind.

 

[Martin L Batley]

The fall-out from Chernobyl showed that you can't restrict it to a certain area. 20 years later Welsh hill farmers were still suffering from radiation in the soil. Mind you I'm not discounting the possibility that he is Mad enough to use nuclear options.

 

[andyBeaker]

The worry at the back of my mind is that I am pretty sure Adolf would have used nuclear capability if it had been available to him…..but also pretty sure he woukd have had someone else from ‘the inside’ pit a much needed bullet in his head beforehand.

It is dangerous to think Putin thinks like a rational human being. Hopefully those around him are slightly more balanced. And have guns.

 

[Pow-Lo]

The worry at the back of my mind is that I am pretty sure Adolf would have used nuclear capability if it had been available to him…..but also pretty sure he woukd have had someone else from ‘the inside’ pit a much needed bullet in his head beforehand.

It is dangerous to think Putin thinks like a rational human being. Hopefully those around him are slightly more balanced. And have guns.

Putin is nuts and it seems to me that he has small man syndrome. Ok, he's 5'7", which isn't really midget territory but it's enough to piss him off. Why else would he keep having photos in what he sees as macho poses with his shirt off whilst on horseback or holding a BFG? He also loves to ride his Hardly Dangerous whilst wearing dodgy leathers with his bike gang. I'm pretty sure he's a judo black belt, too.

Anyhoo, his inner circle is made up of 13 senior generals, 12 of whom are former colleagues from the KGB. The one non ex-KGB is the one who's apparently leading the invasion into Ukraine. That tells me that he'll be the one that gets the sausage when the invasion ultimately fails and that Putin wouldn't want one of his former KGB cronies in that position. It also tells me that none of the 12 are likely to put a gun to his head.

I also don't think he'll launch a nuclear strike because that would effectively end the world. It's little point in trying to make a name for himself in the annals of history if there's going to be no one alive to read it. I wouldn't put it past him to blow up a nuclear power plant though. After all, his troops initially prevented Ukrainian fire fighters from tackling the blaze at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station last week. F'ing nutters, the lot of 'em.

 

[Cougar377]

Laying awake last night I had a very nasty thought
Putin wants a buffer between Russia and NATO
What if the attack on the nuclear plant was very deliberate, going for a Chernobyl scenario ?
There is no better buffer than a radioactive wasteland
What is further worrying is now that plan has failed, will he order the use of a small device to do the same job ?

I never got much sleep last night after that

I said similar a few days ago.......

How long before there is an "accident" at the Chernobyl site and it starts leaking radiation.?

Russian forces made a significant effort to capture it. For what purpose.? Not to keep the Ukrainians from making use of it as an improvised weapon, because it would hurt them far more and the prevailing winds mean that the radiation cloud would head west.

No, I have a horrible feeling that Putin has similar ideas as Saddam Hussein when he destroyed the oil wells and oil refineries as his army retreated .... create an environmental disaster to hurt the west while blaming Ukraine... e. g. Ukrainian artillery fire hits Chernobyl while "heroic" Russian soldiers were "defending" it.

I wouldn't put it past him.

 

[Duck n Dive]

I don't think his actions are predictable, he simply doesn't reason the way most do.

Put it another way, how would you predict Boris would act in any situation if there was no control/accountability that could happen?

Frightening!!

Also, we are judging what's happening based on what we get to see and hear.

The same will be happening in Russia.

We are convinced we're getting fairly balanced/accurate information.

The ordinary Russian will believe exactly the same as us.

I very much doubt the two stories match very much.

It's my understanding that many in Russia from the older generations will very much support and believe Putin.
They can recall the end essentially of the USSR and contraction of the Soviet era/Berlin wall ending.

There was chaos in Russia then with a lot of crime etc.
Those folks credit Putin with restoring order, removing the fear and re-establishing the Russian strength and its place on the world stage.

I hope I'm wrong but I really think it's highly unlikely any internal pressure will remove him short of it turning into a major war which they then lose.

 

[Minkey]

The frightening thing is the people in Russia believe everything he says

 

[andyBeaker]

The frightening thing is the people in Russia believe everything he says

I think the problem is that is all,the information they get.

To be honest I am dubious about a lot of what we are being told as well. Propaganda is part of war.

 

[Squag1]

Two experts on radio say he's not mad. It's personality issue

 

[andyBeaker]

Two experts on radio say he's not mad. It's personality issue

Traditional cure for that is a .44 from a Magnum.

Gun, not ice cream.

 

[Pow-Lo]

I think the problem is that is all,the information they get.

To be honest I am dubious about a lot of what we are being told as well. Propaganda is part of war.

Funny you should say that. Sky News broadcast footage of Russian fighter jets up to mischief the other day and turns out it was footage from a PS5 game.

If I'm not mistaken, I think it was you that said on here quite recently words to the effect of 'the job of the media is to report the news, not make the news'. I wouldn't believe a word of what Sky News tells us, bunch of unscrupulous tossers that they are.

 

[Pow-Lo]

The frightening thing is the people in Russia believe everything he says

That stems back to the Soviet era and the overwhelming majority of them haven't learned any different. Saying that, they're not all dumb; there's a massive influx of Russians into Finland because they want out.

 

[Martin L Batley]

The problem all stems from the fact that everyone has gone out of their way to not upset him for the last few years. They've let him do as he will incase he cuts of the exports of gas and oil. He annexed Crimea and no one opposed him, he's been arming and supplying troops to the separatist areas and no one pulled him up on his bullshit. As for his murderous hit squads that he sends here to kill our civilians forget it.
So now he thinks he's untouchable as we're all hot air and incapable/unwilling to take action against him. It wouldn't surprise me if he thinks that so long as he only uses nuclear, biological and chemical weapons within Ukraine itself we won't be able to do anything about that either.