Interesting Came across this on the web, so must be true !!

[Ned52]

This is a Tesla model Y battery.
It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car.
To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of
the processing of copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult
material to obtain for a battery and the most expensive.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used for the earthmoving to obtain the essential minerals. It consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
Finally you get a “zero emissions” car.
Presently, the bulk of the necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor for getting the minerals in Africa is done by children! If we buy electric cars, it's China who profits most!
BTW, this 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost to replace Tesla batteries is in $US
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes SEVEN years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the batteries is 10 years (average). Only in the last three years do you begin to reduce your carbon footprint. Then the batteries have to be replaced and you lose all the gains you made in those three years.
Let that sink in.

 

[Minkey]

Don't forget that someone has to provide the electricity to charge it up and I don't care what the Government says nuclear power isn't a clean energy source it might not produce CO2 but it does produce radio active waste which takes 1,000s of years to decay

 

[andyBeaker]

‘‘Tis the work of the devil

 

[Artemis]

Electric vehicles may be a good idea in cities and large towns as there are no fumes so should improve air quality. The pollution caused by the generation of electricity for these cars is (generally) away from large connurbations so disburses into the atmosphere instead of being concentrated in the cities.

However, for those of us living rural lives, they don‘t offer much benefit and as there isn’t enough lithium in the world to produce enough batteries for everyone to drive electric, the government’s aim of all vehicles being electric is just not achievable

 

[andyBeaker]

It is so easy to make a totally destructive argument against EVs and ignore the downsides of ICEs and vice versa.

ICEs require more ‘metals’ (generally alloys), regular oil changes, pump out pollution, servicing, petrol/diesel. In addition EVs put out over 90% of their ‘fuel’ as ‘power - ICEs are between 20% and 30%.

Neither is perfect but there has to be a balanced argument.

 

[Malone]

there has to be a balanced argument.

no there doesn’t, lecky vehicles should stick to being milk floats.

I‘d even go so far as to say all we need is a magneto and acetylene lamps

 

[Bluelagoona]

that only confirms what I long suspected. E.V. 's are nowhere near as green for the planet as the manufacturers would have us believe.