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Boris Ex-Friend Says................................

Squag1

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The latest from Boris suggests he's forgotten already what he said in parliament about Keir Starmer and Jimmy
Even for him it surely can't be hard to check what he actually said.

Why then tell the world he said something he didn't?
This is how Trump created dangerous situations for politicians in US and the consequence being January 6th
 

Cougar377

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This is how Trump created dangerous situations for politicians in US and the consequence being January 6th
He has form for it.

Remember what happened to Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe after he shot his mouth off in parliament...?
 

Duck n Dive

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Another classic Yes Minister line today...

They don't ask you to number 10 for a drink just because you're thirsty.

:)
 

Duck n Dive

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The irony of the former number 10 ethics advisor being fined for being at one of the infamous lockdown parties.

And then the further irony that she now apparently works for that bastion of ethics the Premier League!

:)
 

Jaws

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Bottom line is Boris gets things done. I don't expect a politician to be honest. A politician's prioity is to stay in the job. Last honourable politician was Robin Cook. Hated what he believed in generally as a left winger but admired his ethics.
I will say that I am a bit of a Boris fan

However.............
The way he gets things done is at best haphazard

Just my take on things, but he reminds me of a car mechanic ding work on his own car
Yes, things get sort of done, good enough to keep it running, but knowing full well that all his half arsed bodges are gonna have to be fixed at some time in the future.
 

Duck n Dive

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I will say that I am a bit of a Boris fan

However.............
The way he gets things done is at best haphazard

Just my take on things, but he reminds me of a car mechanic ding work on his own car
Yes, things get sort of done, good enough to keep it running, but knowing full well that all his half arsed bodges are gonna have to be fixed at some time in the future.

I used to be a sort of Boris fan in the sense that he can be an "amusing" politician rather than the ever so serious/smarmy type that are the norm.

However, I feel its gradually become clear that what gets done is despite him not because of him.

In your analogy he might be the haphazard mechanic, but actually he's skived off to the pub leaving the apprentice to do all the work (not just on his own car) and then claimed all the credit. If the apprentice dares to suggest otherwise he gets the bullet and thats the same for if anything goes wrong.

He did some good as Mayor of London, but I now think that was the stuff done by his team, not him. As he's climbed the greasy pole this approach becomes more dangerous and risks much.
 

derek kelly

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Yes Andy it honestly is my opinion that he mishandled the covid crisis, i know you have already said it was an impossible task and almost everyone was doing the best that they could because it was something nobody had planned and i agree there is truth in that

But my opinion is that money was wasted, w.h.o advice was ignored, plainly silly ideas were put into action and that we have been consistently lied to by those of boris cronies that we can actually understand
Whoever was PM was going to be accused of mishandling the Covid pandemic specially as the WHO couldn’t even agree on how to handle it & changed their minds regularly then blamed it on a mutating virus.
The fact is that Covid was a once in a lifetime situation that nobody was prepared for.
 

Duck n Dive

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Whoever was PM was going to be accused of mishandling the Covid pandemic specially as the WHO couldn’t even agree on how to handle it & changed their minds regularly then blamed it on a mutating virus.
The fact is that Covid was a once in a lifetime situation that nobody was prepared for.

Agreed, its Boris outside of covid that's the bigger worry.

I think that some tried to use covid as a means to profit or make changes that would have been impossible,both in politics and in business.

It became clear recently that my own employer used it as a way to bring staff numbers waaay down. It seems they saw it as an opportunity to reduce numbers in a way that they'd never have managed otherwise.

Then tried to make permanent the changes in working practices that were agreed to during covid lockdown to prevent losing more jobs - these changes only worked because the actual workload was miniscule. As soon as business started to pick up it was impossible to continue them.

Then they tried to recruit new staff for minimum wage rates. Now they're surprised they can't get many to start at 03:00 on a rubbish shift pattern at a wage rate lower than a supermarket pays for more normal working hours.

Interestingly, out of five service partners employing large numbers only one is having staffing problems. That one did exactly the same in laying off and now can't recruit - same reason, they pay less than the others.

I think covid encouraged people to look at other careers and re-evaluate what's important to them. It seems some who left are happy in new jobs they found having been forced out and now the employer is surprised they don't want to run back.
 

Cougar377

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I used to be a sort of Boris fan in the sense that he can be an "amusing" politician rather than the ever so serious/smarmy type that are the norm.

However, I feel its gradually become clear that what gets done is despite him not because of him.

In your analogy he might be the haphazard mechanic, but actually he's skived off to the pub leaving the apprentice to do all the work (not just on his own car) and then claimed all the credit. If the apprentice dares to suggest otherwise he gets the bullet and thats the same for if anything goes wrong.

He did some good as Mayor of London, but I now think that was the stuff done by his team, not him. As he's climbed the greasy pole this approach becomes more dangerous and risks much.
I too thought that underneath the bumbling buffoon persona there was someone who might bring something fresh to politics. Unfortunately it has been to the detriment of the Tory Party and British politics in general.

The man is the perfect storm.. He's exactly the Tory caricature that Labour have been waiting for... all the negativity that they so love to roll out when describing the Tories - sleaze, corruption, incompetence, dodgy money men and donors, arrogance, lies, deceit and contempt for the little people and even their own voters.

Sure, all those things apply equally to Labour, but Boris has been an absolute gift to Labour propaganda... or at least he would be If they weren't so incompetent themselves.

Whoever the current encumbents are in No. 10 they're not the Tory Party I used to vote for.
 
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