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Jaws

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Pow-Lo

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What struck me most is that someone thought it was a good idea to video it
Yet another example of the degradation of society; too many people want to film a tragedy on their phone yet they're not so quick to try and help.

Dunno if you read the comments but there's a couple of people calling fake. It's hard to tell from a third party video but the comment about left hand window being intact has a point.
 

Squag1

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There was a similar picture going around a few years ago by police.

Looks real to me.
Which country?
 

DanBow

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It does look real but I see what you mean about the rear window. Sure that much force would blow them all out?
 

T.C

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Yet another example of the degradation of society; too many people want to film a tragedy on their phone yet they're not so quick to try and help.

Dunno if you read the comments but there's a couple of people calling fake. It's hard to tell from a third party video but the comment about left hand window being intact has a point.
It is real. I have dealt with quite a few like this where the rear window has remained in tact.

From the filming point of view, I agree that it is in bad taste. I have lost count of the number of fatalities I have been to where members of the public have been trying to film or take pictures.

But that said, whilst there is (in this country anyway) a full AI, footage like this can be helpful in the investigation and the subsequent inquest
 

Squag1

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I saw a guy overtake on a left hand blind bend across the white line with wife on back.
I discovered afterwards he was not on a full licence either.

A year or two later he dropped it coming out of a filling station and broke his shoulder.
 

Martin L Batley

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I'm not convinced it's genuine. Can't reconcile the skid mark that can be seen on the road with how the vehicles came to rest. Also the rider seems to have hold of the steering wheel as if to hold himself in position. There are other things that don't add up too
 

DEG5Y

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Yet another example of the degradation of society; too many people want to film a tragedy on their phone yet they're not so quick to try and help.

Dunno if you read the comments but there's a couple of people calling fake. It's hard to tell from a third party video but the comment about left hand window being intact has a point.
Obviously I have never come across anything like this but 'is it fake' went through my mind, when I saw the rear light was missing. It seemed an odd item to have popped off.
 

Pow-Lo

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Obviously I have never come across anything like this but 'is it fake' went through my mind, when I saw the rear light was missing. It seemed an odd item to have popped off.
I've investigated a lot of accidents over the years (marine related, fortunately only two fatalities and maybe three serious injuries. I've seen some weird shit that, on first impressions, don't stack up. However, once all the facts are made available, then things can, and often do, take on a different slant.

The rear light might've been missing before the accident........

I'm calling bogus as well.
I'm not convinced it's genuine. Can't reconcile the skid mark that can be seen on the road with how the vehicles came to rest. Also the rider seems to have hold of the steering wheel as if to hold himself in position. There are other things that don't add up too
In my own experience, it's very, very difficult to tell from two sources of info like this, particularly when one is chummy having a mate film him riding like a tool and the other is some video shot by a third party ghoul on their phone who isn't filming for evidence purposes/

I'm not convinced it's real. However, if I were investigating something like this, experience would dictate that I line my ducks up first.
 

T.C

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I'm not convinced it's real. However, if I were investigating something like this, experience would dictate that I line my ducks up first.
Like you I have attended and investigated more fatal road crashes than I care to remember over the past 40 years.

Like some I questioned about the authenticity of this, but using some specialist resources, the crash scene is real.

The question mark is in regards of the first piece with the rider taking the bend, in that I do not believer that it the rider involved, but the crash scene itself is real.

And when you see some of the crashes that occur, you question why certain things happen, why some things don't happen, why do some skid marks not correlate to the scene that you are looking at
 

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Back when I was still serving, a mate of mine left the base one night very late after a few jars in the NAAFI, to go home to the wife (he lived off base).
He was driving a 2.8 Capri and lost it on a bend and crashed into a tree.
A passing driver found him and called plod and a meat wagon.
She was quite hysterical when they arrived as the racing style clips that held the bonnet in place had popped and he was partially decapitated by it, yet he was still alive when she found him (although he died before plod and the medics arrived).
The story goes that she never recovered from the experience and gave up driving shortly after.
 

Jaws

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why certain things happen, why some things don't happen
You must have noticed how many times people lose footwear in accidents... really bizzare
 

T.C

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You must have noticed how many times people lose footwear in accidents... really bizzare
It is Bizarre but true, especially in bike crashes. The best example was a crash I dealt with on the A4. GPZ900 sliced a Volvo 340 in half at a crossroads.

Rider was dead as a doornail, but in the back seat of the Volvo was a young child strapped into the child seat, totally unharmed and Mum & Dad in the front seats, shaken (understandably) but also unharmed.

The riders legs and feet (complete with his socks) were still attached to the body, but both his boots were found about 200 yards further down the road still zipped up. To this day we still have not figured out how his footwear came off and travelled so far .

Gloves are also a favourite for coming off, and not because they were removed by a paramedic.

Went to a crash one night. Multiple fatality, 4 bodies in the car and we arrived before the Ambulance/Paramedic.

Woman in the back had been decapitated, but the body was still moving due to the fact that she at the time of death was very heavily pregnant.

Long story short, Paramedics were on scene quickly and we delivered a baby boy. I believe the lad (who will now be in his 30's) was adopted by his aunt and uncle and is still alive to this day.

That was a very interesting and protracted inquest.....
 
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ogr1

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My brother had a horrific bike accident
in the 70's. Lost an arm, multiple fractures
in the left leg. Watched him for years suffering from 'phantom limb syndrome'.
The brain still pumping signals to the arm
or lack of. He used to sweat buckets even
in winter. Anyhow, talking of losing your footwear, he used to wear boots that had
8 buckles/straps, so you would think they
would stay on? Nope, never found his left
boot? Hit a concrete lamp post head on.
Heading around a bend, back tire blew out
which sat the bike upright and he lost control, or that's what I was informed?

Never understood why the lamp post
light cover was missing?
 

Squag1

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I always wonder how people on bikes hit lamp posts. I'm sure if you tried you would have difficulty.
 
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