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[Punchy]

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A chief constable has been criticised after his car was reportedly caught speeding at nearly 100 mph on the M1.
Derbyshire Chief Constable David Coleman, a staunch anti-speeding campaigner, was being driven by a chauffeur when the vehicle was stopped.

Traffic officers in Hertfordshire reportedly clocked the car doing 97mph as Mr Coleman returned from London.

Derbyshire Police confirmed a car carrying the chief had been stopped for a "road traffic offence".

Safety cameras

"This is a serious speeding offence and one for which someone could expect an outright ban," said an RAC spokesman.

"Even though the chief constable wasn't driving, we expect public figures to set a good example.

"They are the ones involved in promoting road safety and to be involved in a speeding offence clearly doesn't send a positive message to the public."

The police chief was returning to his county after an engagement in London at the time of the incident.

Mr Coleman's force was one of the first in the country to create a Safety Camera Partnership.

It uses police, court and local authority resources to install extra speed cameras in an attempt to reduce road deaths.

Tough stance

On Friday the team exhibited a stand at Birmingham's National Exhibition Centre, displaying a motorbike badly damaged in a collision to shock car users.

However, the chief constable's tough stance has incensed some motorists, with one man convicted of repeated attacks on local speed cameras.

A Derbyshire Police spokeswoman said: "The car was driven by a member of Derbyshire Police staff and the passenger was the chief constable.

"The matter is now being dealt with by Hertfordshire Police."

 

[Grey Wolf]

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will be brushed under the carpet and never be heard of again

"The matter is now being dealt with by Hertfordshire Police."

 

[ianrobbo1]

its the "chauffeur" thats going to get the ban/points, not the twat sat in the back, although he should be "at least" reprimanded,
once again hypocrisy in action again!!

 

[Punchy]

its the "chauffeur" thats going to get the ban/points, not the twat sat in the back, although he should be "at least" reprimanded, once again hypocrisy in action again!!

Probably but there have been instances of licences been given points even when the offence wasnt driving related (The old guy using a placard to warn of a speed camera). I think in this case a severe reprimand should be the minimum.

:bang: :bang:

 

[AV8TOR]

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone :} :}

 

[Jaws]

Gentlemen please... I would like to see said CC slapped as much as anyone for his attitude, but lets be reasonable. He is in the back of a car.. most likely reading or nodding off.. He is, bottom line, merely a passenger.

Put the boot on the other foot..
Your on the back of a bloke going large.. you KNOW he is speeding.. He is doing about 120ish ( not that unusual on todays bikes )..
He gets stopped and nicked.
Should YOU be banned too ?

 

[ianrobbo1]

as I stated above, :dunno: although the driver will "get it in the neck" his boss should take "some" responsibility for his employees actions, he after all was in a position {unlike a pillion as stated above} to instruct his driver to slow down or at least point out, his "breaking" of the law, and as "CC" his own position would be open for critisism, :dunno:

 

[derek kelly]

The point is he was in attendance whilst an offence was being committed, even if he was asleep, ignorance is no excuse, as he would no doubt point out to any member of the public in the same situation

 

[Punchy]

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone

I'm not saying I don't speed I ferkin do... but I'm not in a position to dictate to anyone else that they shouldn't. As far as I'm concerned speeding is OK when done in the right place and can stop the driver becoming bored and falling asleep at the wheel.

Gentlemen please... I would like to see said CC slapped as much as anyone for his attitude, but lets be reasonable. He is in the back of a car.. most likely reading or nodding off.. He is, bottom line, merely a passenger. Put the boot on the other foot..Your on the back of a bloke going large.. you KNOW he is speeding.. He is doing about 120ish ( not that unusual on todays bikes ).. He gets stopped and nicked. Should YOU be banned too ?

Bit different this Jaws. For a start he (the CC) should be setting an example to the rest of us by INSISTING his driver stay within the law. Secondly he is not only the drivers superior officer but also his employer and would have been well aware of the cars speed and should have asked the driver to slow down. I have no doubt that the driver is well capable of driving at the speed he was doing as are the majority of high performance car/bike owners but when you live in a nanny state regime that insists in reducing us to the performance of the most inept we ALL should be expected to comply with the law. Those in power should be leading by example and when they fail to do so should have higher penalties imposed upon them !!!

 

[derek kelly]

Also this CC is a major advocate of road safety legislation, Apparently he is very hard line with speeders,

Do as I say not do as I do springs to mind

 

[Jaws]

ALL should be expected to comply with the law. Those in power should be leading by example and when they fail to do so should have higher penalties imposed upon them !!!

Ah.. and that is the point.. The laws view is that the driver is at fault and not the passenger.

You cannot moan and say one law for them and another for us, then expect one law for them and another for us the other way round ( if you see what I mean ! )

 

[Punchy]

Ah.. and that is the point.. The laws view is that the driver is at fault and not the passenger.

You cannot moan and say one law for them and another for us, then expect one law for them and another for us the other way round ( if you see what I mean ! )

Actually the law as it is being enforced at the moment is that the OWNER of the vehicle is guilty unless he can prove himself innocent which is completely contrary to UK law. This still doesnt explain why an OAP is given points on his licence when his offence isnt vehicle related, As far as I can see the courts have gone completely power crazy when dealing with motoring offences and the complete opposite where trying a burglar/rapist/mugger. I stopped buying newspapers years ago because the content makes me fuckin boil with anger. As far as I am concerned if those in charge want to lay down certain laws then everybody obeys them.. no exceptions.. and in this case if the CC is the passenger he is also responsible for his driver because of the attitude he has taken on speeding.

 

[tailgator]

"The point is he was in attendance whilst an offence was being committed, even if he was asleep, ignorance is no excuse, as he would no doubt point out to any member of the public in the same situation"

What he said...

 

[Gerrard]

speeding

Hi Guys.
I think Aiding and Abetting springs to mind on this one.
Paul.

 

[paulh]

Huh... am i missing something here?

The 'employer' is the Government NOT the CC?

The CC is ONLY the 'boss' i.e. his responsibility is to discipline the junior member of staff, by following whatever procedures are laid down, which no doubt he will do? (Not ALL Bosses are employers; in fact most of them are employees).

In addition the CC might well have been sitting directly behind the driver, or working on a computer or whatever ..... AND the type of car he was probably being chauffered in would have been something like a JAG .....which feels like doing 60 when doing 100 mph.

Come off it u guys ....this hasnt got anything to do with the CC, other than his responsibility to discipline the chauffer.