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Bad luck or bad timing?

derek kelly

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A guy we know tried for ten years to purchase some land between two bungalows, the owner wasn’t selling, eventually the owner died & his daughter agreed to sell the land, so the purchase went ahead, planning permission was granted & so the building of a large dormer bungalow began, building was held up a couple of times as his own house sale fell through twice eventually selling for twenty grand under valuation, the building resumed & was eventually completed, the bungalow was valued at £420,000 due to the stunning unspoilt views, he had been in the bungalow for less than eight Months when he discovered that the unspoilt views were going to turn into 5000 new builds, 250 of them to be affordable housing, his dream home is now up for sale at much less than valuation.
 

johnboy

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Unless you can buy all the land that contains the "view", it will always be a possibility that it is lost. Saw a TV programme recently about Monaco and the sea views that disappear from multi million pound properties.
 

Pow-Lo

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One of the criteria on Mrs P's list when we were looking for this place was zero possibility of anyone building around us.

I really wish these f'ing developers would stop raping the countryside and sticking new developments all over the place. It's gone way too far. If they really must build, there's enough dilapidated shite that they can pull down instead of destroying the small amount of green that we have left.
 

Stevebrooke

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Just out of curiosity what's the area? I've seen a few small residential developments put up and then a few years later massive warehouses have appeared in adjoining fields.
 

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A guy we know tried for ten years to purchase some land between two bungalows, the owner wasn’t selling, eventually the owner died & his daughter agreed to sell the land, so the purchase went ahead, planning permission was granted & so the building of a large dormer bungalow began, building was held up a couple of times as his own house sale fell through twice eventually selling for twenty grand under valuation, the building resumed & was eventually completed, the bungalow was valued at £420,000 due to the stunning unspoilt views, he had been in the bungalow for less than eight Months when he discovered that the unspoilt views were going to turn into 5000 new builds, 250 of them to be affordable housing, his dream home is now up for sale at much less than valuation.
Either bad luck or lack of research/reading search results depending on timing.
 

DEG5Y

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Either bad luck or lack of research/reading search results depending on timing.
When we moved to where I am, the search showed nothing in the near vicinity, showed a couple of things a little further away that were earmarked for stuff maybe three years away.
Just over twelve months after we moved in, we received notification to say the Council were building on the field directly behind us. That field was one of the reasons we moved here!
 

Squag1

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Saw a programme years ago about British people who bought homes in Spain with big sites and long gardens.

The "council" to shorten the gardens between the backs of the houses and build new houses.
 

Minkey

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It sounds like another case of that well known legislation, Sods Law :aplastao:
 

derek kelly

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Just out of curiosity what's the area? I've seen a few small residential developments put up and then a few years later massive warehouses have appeared in adjoining fields.
Applehaighs in Royston, the guy used to do the Elvis act in Barnbrookes (now Wentworth arms)
 

andyBeaker

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When he built there were no plans for building on the fields.
Bad luck then.

I don’t know if it is common practice across the Uk but our council has a ‘local plan’ that identifies six sites in and around the town where they have indicated they would look favourably on housing developments being sited.

having been involved in a lot of this stuff over the years the planning process borders on farcical with too many well intentioned but ill informed amateurs involved. It’s only when it gets to the level of senior salaried council planners that reality sets in ie they have to comply with government planning policy. The amount of money that is wasted reversing I’ll informed amateur planning decisions on appeal must run into the tens of millions.

as an aside, if anyone thinks ‘green belt’ is immune from development then I have some bad news....

Very sad.
 

derek kelly

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I've seen some of that lot when I'm out and about with work; a proper blot on the landscape.
Just going to get worse, they are also going to build on the flood plain opposite side of Lee lane, supposedly building a school & some supermarkets, building right back as far as Carlton & Athersley.
 

derek kelly

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Bad luck then.

I don’t know if it is common practice across the Uk but our council has a ‘local plan’ that identifies six sites in and around the town where they have indicated they would look favourably on housing developments being sited.

having been involved in a lot of this stuff over the years the planning process borders on farcical with too many well intentioned but ill informed amateurs involved. It’s only when it gets to the level of senior salaried council planners that reality sets in ie they have to comply with government planning policy. The amount of money that is wasted reversing I’ll informed amateur planning decisions on appeal must run into the tens of millions.

as an aside, if anyone thinks ‘green belt’ is immune from development then I have some bad news....

Very sad.
Yet I cannot get permission to build a bungalow on my own land.
 

andyBeaker

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Yet I cannot get permission to build a bungalow on my own land.
Potentially you can get permission to build anywhere. If you are talking about your field then it is possible, just possible, that you could get permission for an 'architecturally interesting low environmental impact' building if you press really hard and have many years to spend pursuing it.

Alternatively you could start working the land to provide a sustainable agricultural/livestock business then prove you need to live on site to manage it.

Or live on site in a caravan for six years and hope you don't get served notice to leave in that time.

I didn't say it was easy!
 

slim63

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I drove through the village where I lived for the majority of my life yesterday, it used to be great with the "new houses" either end of the village being built on waste land & old ncb property that actually improved the look of the place (although some of the residents were twats) ............. Now there are 4 different building sites all over the place completely spoiling what was open green belt land :(

I think within a couple of years that village & the next will be joined by continuous housing completely ruining the reason that it was a very sought after place to live less than 10 years ago & making the older house prices drop as they are now surrounded by new shoe boxes where before it was open countryside :(
 

andyBeaker

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I drove through the village where I lived for the majority of my life yesterday, it used to be great with the "new houses" either end of the village being built on waste land & old ncb property that actually improved the look of the place (although some of the residents were twats) ............. Now there are 4 different building sites all over the place completely spoiling what was open green belt land :(

I think within a couple of years that village & the next will be joined by continuous housing completely ruining the reason that it was a very sought after place to live less than 10 years ago & making the older house prices drop as they are now surrounded by new shoe boxes where before it was open countryside :(
That's where the clever money is going - green belt adjoining established communities. Almost a guarantee of getting planning permission if the local authority aren't hitting their 'new homes' target as set by the central government.

My pal i pin Wales has a glorious view out the back, nothing for miles. But I sit there thinking ' I bet I could get permission to build around forty properties on the field that he overlooks without too much trouble'. Haven't got the heart to tell them...
 

eddyace595

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Keele Golf course across from Keele University has shut and been earmarked for
thousands of new houses..Eventually many of the small mining villiages in North Staffs
like Silverdale and Chesterton will lose their identity and be part of one huge conurbation.
Aunties house at the top end of Congleton used to be surrounded by great countryside and
rural lanes leading to Jodrell Bank and views up to the Peak District...But everywhere that you look
they have thrown up new housing developments..The area has completely changed...And none of the houses
are starter homes for kids....But thats another story..Basically its happening everywhere :mad:
 

Pow-Lo

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I drove through the village where I lived for the majority of my life yesterday, it used to be great with the "new houses" either end of the village being built on waste land & old ncb property that actually improved the look of the place (although some of the residents were twats) ............. Now there are 4 different building sites all over the place completely spoiling what was open green belt land :(

I think within a couple of years that village & the next will be joined by continuous housing completely ruining the reason that it was a very sought after place to live less than 10 years ago & making the older house prices drop as they are now surrounded by new shoe boxes where before it was open countryside :(
I read somewhere that “they” say that Cardiff and Newport will be joined in about ten years, FFS. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
 

slim63

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I read somewhere that “they” say that Cardiff and Newport will be joined in about ten years, FFS. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

Half way from my old village & the next which is a distance of about 3 miles there are 2 expensive houses one side of the road & a farm the other, behind the houses there was what we called the 19 acre field (although I don't know the exact size it was big) being almost at the top of a hill the views from any of those places were unspoilt across the 19 acre & for about 4 miles beyond, that field is now a building site :mad:

My old gaffer & good mate used to live in one of the houses, it was worth £400,000 about 3 years ago when he sold, my guess is there has been a big chunk lopped off the value now

The other thing that comes to mind is the village school, its a proper quaint little thing as you would expect from such a small village so I am wondering how it will cope with an influx of new kids as more families move in to the completed new builds, my guess is the quality of education will suffer & the road will be even more blocked outside as more twats rock up in their posh cars twice a day to save themselves a (literally) 3 minute walk in some cases
 
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