• Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )

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Punchy

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Uninsured drivers are to face automatic fines of at least ?60 in an attempt to reduce rising levels of illegal driving in the UK.
New laws being announced by the government will give police access to insurance company records.

Currently police have to catch uninsured drivers using their cars in order to prosecute them.

But the new powers will make it illegal to own a car without insuring it or declaring that it is not being used.

As well as the fines, the new powers will mean uninsured drivers could have their vehicles seized or crushed.

BBC transport correspondent Tom Symonds says the estimated one million uninsured drivers in the UK cost law-abiding motorists ?30 each in extra insurance premiums each year.

Uninsured drivers are also more likely to have accidents and police say they often commit more serious offences.

The planned change will mean police can automatically send out fines based on insurance company records.

Cameras that can read number plates - such as those used in London's congestion charging zone - will also be used to trap uninsured drivers.

In August, figures showed that the number of uninsured drivers on London's roads had risen by 40 per cent between 2001 and 2003, double the average for England and Wales.
 
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Smoothandquick

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about time

but can't see it making a scrap of difference - those that are uninsured prolly have not transferred the reg doc into their name so they won't be traceable anyway......and if the fine did catch up with them, would just bin it anyway. These people have a different mentality to the rest of us......well most of us.....well some of us....lol

Someone needs to get a bit smarter than this - more police on the roads....more police on the roads......
 

Jaws

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Uninsured drivers are to face automatic fines of at least ?60 in an attempt to reduce rising levels of illegal driving in the UK.

Whilst the basic idea is to be applauded, I personally see this as yet ANOTHER infringement of personal liberty.

The powers that be are being given more and more power, all the while yor own personal privacy is being eroded.

I refer my learned friends to my other thread.. 'time to leave' !
 
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Smoothandquick

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time to re-name John

Jaws Orwell..........sorted. :-:
 
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Messer

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FPN

We have ?200 Fixed Penalty Notices for uninsured drivers and have had for several months, the only requirement is that they are recorded on the ANPR system fitted to our cars. The driver also gets 6 points on their driving licence.
 

Punchy

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Jaws said:
Whilst the basic idea is to be applauded, I personally see this as yet ANOTHER infringement of personal liberty. The powers that be are being given more and more power, all the while yor own personal privacy is being eroded. I refer my learned friends to my other thread.. 'time to leave' !

But the new powers will make it illegal to own a car without insuring it or declaring that it is not being used. If that is tied in with the SORN form then it should be OK. Having said that I still think SORN is something that you should only have to do once and not every year.
The whole situation could of course be sorted with more plod on the streets and its just shit government.
 

Jaws

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1984 is happening children.. it is just a little late !!

I never thought I would say this as I have always wanted to be around when space is finally travelled, and to see the many other amazing inventions the human race is gonna come up with in the next few hundred years, but to be perfectly honest, I now feel sorry for my grandchildren.. that they are gonna have to live in a country that makes China seem like fairy land..

I think my generation were the lucky'est in history.. The massive leaps in technology, the 60's, etc etc.. By the time I am past caring the good times will all be over..

I am just waiting to see images of a lone student standing in front of a tank with a rose in their hand in Parliment Square.

I have no doubt that their death will be ok cos the flower may be a bomb or their words my be subversive...

This morning I am very very sad.
 

Duck n Dive

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I'm with Meldrew JAWS

I'm with JAWS here........ it's just yet more techno spying/control of the peeps who play by the rules.

The simple fact is that the peeps who don't have insurance etc. don't give a feck. They use vehicles that aren't registered in their names so how will this affect 'em.

And even if they get identified and fined they'll just pay it off at 50p p/wk when they really have to - I've seen just how that last bit works with the courts it's really. It's just so easy to get any fine reduced to "easy low weekly payment" by those that know how to manipluate the system.
 
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Smoothandquick

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See my earlier post Gerry

more visible policing needed....and harsher sentencing.....but that is all a pipe dream.....:shooter:
 
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