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Army housing changes

Duck n Dive

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My understanding is that the "worst affected" are going to be officers that have no/small family.

Although I'm sure senior occifers will somehow come through OK.

Be interesting what they do with the carpets.
I believe lower ranks can (or used to) only have rugs, wall to wall carpets are for officers only.
If an ordinary pleb gets larger quarters that an officer had been in they'll have to remove the carpets first :rolleyes: :D
 

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My understanding is that the "worst affected" are going to be officers that have no/small family.

Although I'm sure senior occifers will somehow come through OK.

Be interesting what they do with the carpets.
I believe lower ranks can (or used to) only have rugs, wall to wall carpets are for officers only.
If an ordinary pleb gets larger quarters that an officer had been in they'll have to remove the carpets first :rolleyes: :D
Never understood why ruperts got bigger houses. A family of four is a family of four, whether the head of the house is commissioned or not.
It was the same for things like subsistence rates, etc. Why should an officer receive 3 to 4 times as much to feed himself as the lowest ranks.?

We had carpets in the other ranks married quarters back in the 80`s.
 

Martin L Batley

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Never understood why ruperts got bigger houses. A family of four is a family of four, whether the head of the house is commissioned or not.
It was the same for things like subsistence rates, etc. Why should an officer receive 3 to 4 times as much to feed himself as the lowest ranks.?

We had carpets in the other ranks married quarters back in the 80`s.
I would have thought that was obvious, officers eat expensive caviar and drink fine wine whereas the ranks make do with fish roe and plonk or beer.
 

Duck n Dive

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I’m asking as I really don’t know - is rent paid on this??


Yes, it used to be heavily subsidised but these days not so much, I believe.

The problem is service families can't do normal rentals as they can't apparently give the notice period a normal rental agreement requires.

Further complicated by the fact MOD sold off it's accommodation portfolio to a private company from whom it now leases.
The private company is not very good at maintenance, I've seen a recent photo of a property where the roof is collapsing into a bay window/room. Apparently the landlord says it's not an urgent item to resolve....
 

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Yes, it used to be heavily subsidised but these days not so much, I believe.

The problem is service families can't do normal rentals as they can't apparently give the notice period a normal rental agreement requires.

Further complicated by the fact MOD sold off it's accommodation portfolio to a private company from whom it now leases.
The private company is not very good at maintenance, I've seen a recent photo of a property where the roof is collapsing into a bay window/room. Apparently the landlord says it's not an urgent item to resolve....
I must be missing something as I remain puzzled!!

I would have thought that a senior officer gets a bigger ‘housing allowance’ if that exists/is correct terminology than a potato peeler therefore, if they are paying rent, would be able to have a bigger/better house than a potato peeler??
 

Squag1

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Yes, it used to be heavily subsidised but these days not so much, I believe.

The problem is service families can't do normal rentals as they can't apparently give the notice period a normal rental agreement requires.

Further complicated by the fact MOD sold off it's accommodation portfolio to a private company from whom it now leases.
The private company is not very good at maintenance, I've seen a recent photo of a property where the roof is collapsing into a bay window/room. Apparently the landlord says it's not an urgent item to resolve....
Once upon a time governments looked after the people. Now care is sold to private enterprise who'se only concern is the bottom line.
Pity socialism lost it's way.
 

Cougar377

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Once upon a time governments looked after the people. Now care is sold to private enterprise who'se only concern is the bottom line.
ANY service connected to the Armed Forces, public health care or basic utilities should NEVER be run purely for profit. There has to be accountability for providing a cost effective, consistent and efficient service with severe penalties for failing to do so.
 

Duck n Dive

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I must be missing something as I remain puzzled!!

I would have thought that a senior officer gets a bigger ‘housing allowance’ if that exists/is correct terminology than a potato peeler therefore, if they are paying rent, would be able to have a bigger/better house than a potato peeler??

I guess you're right ish.

Starting pay for a private after training is about £24,000.
A corporal about £31,000.
A lieutenant £28,000
A Captain £42,000
A Major £54,000

According to the army they are able to live in high quality accomadation at or close to their place of work.

I guess a private wouldn't be allowed a one hour commute.
If single they're exoected to live in barracks (could be paying £80 p/mth.)
If married they get a "home" (for around £370 p/mth.)


Required standards include a kitchen less than 30 years old and a bathroom less than 40 years old.
There is "mould team" available to assess properties and plan repairs, but apparent3they warn it could take, some time....

They seem quite coy about how the type of property is decided on and how much the higher ranks actually pay!
 

andyBeaker

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I guess you're right ish.

Starting pay for a private after training is about £24,000.
A corporal about £31,000.
A lieutenant £28,000
A Captain £42,000
A Major £54,000

According to the army they are able to live in high quality accomadation at or close to their place of work.

I guess a private wouldn't be allowed a one hour commute.
If single they're exoected to live in barracks (could be paying £80 p/mth.)
If married they get a "home" (for around £370 p/mth.)


Required standards include a kitchen less than 30 years old and a bathroom less than 40 years old.
There is "mould team" available to assess properties and plan repairs, but apparent3they warn it could take, some time....

They seem quite coy about how the type of property is decided on and how much the higher ranks actually pay!
thank you. I still sort of don’t get why the army should be any different to anyone else. The example I have seen aired is that a lower rank married couple with four kids will get a bigger house than a married senior officer with no kids Purely based on the size of the family.



That doesn’t make any sense to me.
 

Duck n Dive

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thank you. I still sort of don’t get why the army should be any different to anyone else. The example I have seen aired is that a lower rank married couple with four kids will get a bigger house than a married senior officer with no kids Purely based on the size of the family.



That doesn’t make any sense to me.


Nope, that's not how it works.

It is how they want it to work in future.

Traditionally the size of property has (allegedly) been based on rank with no/little consideration of family size.

But those plans have now been put on hold due to retention fears.

Currently the forces are struggling to recruit (not meeting requirements) and occifers (and other ranks) are finding they can earn more elsewhere.
 
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