Abandoned car

[Pow-Lo]

Not quite.

Legal drive with dropped kerb.

Nothing you can if the drive is empty and someone parks across it.

You call plod if your car is on the drive and blocked in as that is "obstruction".

My understanding is that it's illegal to park across a dropped kerb (that's been properly installed with planning permission) whether there's a car on the drive or not. However, it's civil law and not criminal hence Dibble's reluctance to get involved.

I found tons of references but this one doesn't have pop-ups and irritating cookie permissions.

Q440: Someone has parked their car and it is blocking my driveway, what shall I do?

 

[Duck n Dive]

The dibble bit comes in with exiting your drive as that is obstruction.
Entering your drive isn't as you can freely move on the highway.

I still suspect it won't be high on the priority list for the day!

That quote has been carefully written - it only mentions accessing your drive - there's a subtle difference if you're trying to exit your drive.

 

[Squag1]

Traffic warden might be a better bet.
I've seen several of wardens having rows with people who got tickets for very odd reasons, one outside his own door. I think it was a dished kerb.

 

[Pow-Lo]

The dibble bit comes in with exiting your drive as that is obstruction.
Entering your drive isn't as you can freely move on the highway.

I still suspect it won't be high on the priority list for the day!

That quote has been carefully written - it only mentions accessing your drive - there's a subtle difference if you're trying to exit your drive.

Like most things legal, it's a tricky one. I could've made it simpler by leaving the 'drive' part out of it and simply stating it's illegal to park across a dropped kerb. After all, that's the actual offence.

 

[derek kelly]

There is a lot pussyfooting around going on here- Give it a good rock until the alarm goes off and see if anyone appears.

None of the neighbours know anything about it, don’t think anybody responds to car alarms any more.

 

[derek kelly]

Like most things legal, it's a tricky one. I could've made it simpler by leaving the 'drive' part out of it and simply stating it's illegal to park across a dropped kerb. After all, that's the actual offence.

It’s not an offence to park across a dropped kerb unless they are partly on it.

 

[Duck n Dive]

The only offence is "obstruction" of the highway.

Outside of London the footpath doesn't matter.

If your car is already on the highway you can't be obstructed.

If your car is on your drive then you access to the highway is obstructed.

 

[derek kelly]

The law on parking on pavements is enshrined in the Highway Code and covers all road vehicles. Rule 244 of the Code states: "You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it." Roadside signs are key here, including ones in London.

 

[andyBeaker]

The law on parking on pavements is enshrined in the Highway Code and covers all road vehicles. Rule 244 of the Code states: "You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it." Roadside signs are key here, including ones in London.

Point of order - The Highway Code isn’t law as far as I’m aware. It’s something that you have to learn to pass a test then forget.

 

[Nige F]

Ask the police to come and check it..... May well be stolen on cloned plates... Not the first time I've known an identical veh be parked there for weeks and eventually it gets checked and found to have been nicked

 

[Martin L Batley]

Point of order - The Highway Code isn’t law as far as I’m aware. It’s something that you have to learn to pass a test then forget.

If the highway code states you "must" or "must not" do something then it is backed up by legislation. If it says "should" or "shouldn't " then this is a suggestion.

 

[slim63]

My understanding is that it's illegal to park across a dropped kerb (that's been properly installed with planning permission) whether there's a car on the drive or not. However, it's civil law and not criminal hence Dibble's reluctance to get involved.

I found tons of references but this one doesn't have pop-ups and irritating cookie permissions.

Q440: Someone has parked their car and it is blocking my driveway, what shall I do?

Grey area I am afraid mate, I had this issue at my house they would park partially blocking the drive so I could only go right to get out when actually to get anywhere I needed to go left, went down the council and plod route to no avail so ended up breaking a few things to get the message across

I have the same again now dropped kerb with a white no parking line across it (which actually means sweet FA)
between our dropped kerb and next doors is an unlined bit just big enough to park a proper mini in, anything bigger than that comes way over our drive and the road is so narrow that half the time the mrs has to go right and around the block instead of left which is a much shorter route

Council say if you can get out its not an obstruction no matter how difficult it is, plod have no interest at all .... not so bad now as I park the focus there well over next doors drive (with permission) but we had 4 years of hassle with it

 

[derek kelly]

Ask the police to come and check it..... May well be stolen on cloned plates... Not the first time I've known an identical veh be parked there for weeks and eventually it gets checked and found to have been nicked

Police are not interested.

 

[Pow-Lo]

It’s not an offence to park across a dropped kerb unless they are partly on it.

I’d like to see your source of info on that. As far as I’m aware, it’s illegal (again, civil not criminal) to park across a dropped kerb that is in place following planning permission and approval by the local council.

 

[Ned52]

I believe its an offence to park across a drive way if you are stopping a car getting OUT of dive as it could classed as a emergency

 

[derek kelly]

I believe its an offence to park across a drive way if you are stopping a car getting OUT of dive as it could classed as a emergency

Are you calling my house a dive?

 

[andyBeaker]

I’d like to see your source of info on that. As far as I’m aware, it’s illegal (again, civil not criminal) to park across a dropped kerb that is in place following planning permission and approval by the local council.

Being a bit pedantic, if it is ‘civil’ then surely it’s not ‘illegal’.

Nit that it matters

 

[Pow-Lo]

Being a bit pedantic, if it is ‘civil’ then surely it’s not ‘illegal’.

Nit that it matters

Might be unlawful. Either way, if someone parks across your dropped kerb you can legally punch them in the face.

 

[andyBeaker]

Might be unlawful. Either way, if someone parks across your dropped kerb you can legally punch them in the face.

Civil law is based on precedent where available. Mah I refer my learned friend to the famous ‘Yeovil Glove Company’ and ‘National,Westminster Bank V Morgan‘ for fascinating cases where no precedent had been set.

Criminal Law is based on statute.

 

[Martin L Batley]

At least its outside, did you know that there is nothing to stop people parking on your drive. If it's on your drive the council has no jurisdiction and the police can't help as its a civil matter of trespass.