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Cougar377

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Speak Romanian? ......... I expect so but I dont so have no real way of knowing :jaja-no:
Ours mainly just say "beeg eesue".

I think it's some kind of mating call as they're always bloody pregnant.
 

Cougar377

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I wonder how many people who are so in favour of these immigrants being given a helping hand to cross the Channel would be so keen on their arrival if a holding camp was set up on their doorstep.
 

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Andy, you come across as a really nice chap who wants to see the good in everything, I no longer think like that, my eyes have been opened to the greed & selfish levels people will stoop to for self gain to the point that I couldn’t give a damn if those illegally entering our Country drown at sea, (except children) for an ideal society we need to live in harmony but due to selfishness that is an impossibility.
I could quite easily become a sociopath.
it is not a matter of ‘seeing the good in everything’ - I try as best as I can to see a wider context and that inevitably raises the question ‘why are these people doing this?’ Civil war, poverty to a degree that is beyond anything in this country, lack of ability and opportunity to support families,etc. Yes of course there are some who are only interested in crime, same as in any society, but the majority are desperate. Why else would you risk your life and step into the unknown in the event you make it.

As pointed out above the real problem here is the people traffickers. Take a look at ‘Taken: Hunting the Sex Traffickers’ currently running on Channel 4. I would wager that the majority crossing The English Channel end up in modern day slavery, women being forced into prostitution serving maybe twenty clients a day, men being forced to look after cannabis farms, etc.

On reflection do you really mean the bit highlighted in red?

i totslly agree with you about ‘selfishness’; the behaviour of a large minority in the pandemic has highlighted that. As does the multi generational families who have no intention of doing anything constructive with their lives, preferring to live on benefits and supplement that with crime.
 

Pow-Lo

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it is not a matter of ‘seeing the good in everything’ - I try as best as I can to see a wider context and that inevitably raises the question ‘why are these people doing this?’ Fair enough. That's just plain decency.

Civil war, poverty to a degree that is beyond anything in this country, lack of ability and opportunity to support families,etc. Yes of course there are some who are only interested in crime, same as in any society, but the majority are desperate. Sorry Andrew, but to my knowledge there's no civil war in Romania, Albania or any of the other eastern European countries where these people are coming from. Furthermore, why are they all young men of fighting age? as has been said above, if I was in that situation I'd like to think that the first thing I'd do is get my family to safety.

Why else would you risk your life and step into the unknown in the event you make it. In light of the very vocal left wing minority that would have us believe that they're a majority, we are seen as a soft touch. Anyone so much as blinks at a minority person on the basis of race, creed, colour, religion, gender, sexual preference or political orientation and they face legal action. However, if any of these immigrants commit a crime here they literally get away with murder and goodness knows what else. Far fetched? I don't think so. A couple of years ago, some wanker was being deported and Mrs P had the misfortune of being in charge of the flight this twat was on. He was escorted by two security people and handcuffed to his chair. He started kicking off and a number of passengers (obviously Liebour voters and Guardian readers) started protesting on his behalf and raising questions as to how such an innocent little man could possibly be deported. the conditions on board became unsafe and Mrs P advised the captain of the situation and he promptly offloaded the little c.unt and his escorts. Said c.unt is now free to roam this country (last I heard). Oh, did I mention that he was convicted of sex offences against children? This is what happens when left-wing do gooders poke their noses in where they don't belong. I hope they're proud of themselves; when this c.unt offends again, and I have no doubt in my mind that he will, it's on their heads.

As pointed out above the real problem here is the people traffickers. Take a look at ‘Taken: Hunting the Sex Traffickers’ currently running on Channel 4. I would wager that the majority crossing The English Channel end up in modern day slavery, women being forced into prostitution serving maybe twenty clients a day, men being forced to look after cannabis farms, etc. This has been going on for so long, I cannot believe that word hasn't somehow filtered to their families back home yet they still make the trip

On reflection do you really mean the bit highlighted in red? I take your point here. On reflection, Dezza's point doesn't sit well with me but at the same time I can't help agreeing with him. See my point above; all young men of fighting age so what the fuck are they doing here? Shouldn't they be at home defending their families in theses civil wars that you speak of?

i totslly agree with you about ‘selfishness’; the behaviour of a large minority in the pandemic has highlighted that. As does the multi generational families who have no intention of doing anything constructive with their lives, preferring to live on benefits and supplement that with crime. Agree with you. An awful lot of these multi-generational families are not British so where did they come from?
Andrew, seriously, open your eyes. Most of us want to do the 'right thing'. I have no problem with people coming here with honest intentions, prepared to get some shit under their fingernails, pay their taxes, fit in and play nicely with the locals. Everyone else can fuck off.
 

derek kelly

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Do I mean it? Absolutely, I don’t know them yet they are here to steal m pension. Anybody who is a drain on our economy & threatens the pension I have earned for nearly fifty years can drown with my blessing.
 

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Turn this around a little then Andy.
You're focusing it seems on the "victim industry".

If I accept your view that all those thousands in the camps of France are not there by choice but are victims of gangs.

Why are the gangs bringing them to the UK in preference to anywhere else.

Why didn't they exploit them in any of the countries they travelled through to get here?

Why is the UK sex/drug/car washing/big issue selling/shop lifting etc etc so much more lucrative/attractive than Spain, Greece, Italy, Germany, France etc, etc?


If you focus on the reasons and work on removing them you then destroy the ability of the gangs to do business.

In my time I've directly dealt with these people arriving into the UK by air - the upmarket segment!!

The ones I dealt with knew exactly what they were doing.

They had the correct paperwork (passports/visas) to be able to transit through other countries and to enter the UK for non work purposes. They wanted to move here to work.

If they were in danger they could have said so at any point prior to arrival into the UK, why didn't they.

To be refused entry into the UK border control must legally know who you are. If they don't they must first establish that before refusing entry.
Knowing that these folks destroy their documents on the last leg to the UK and then pretend they don't speak/understand English.
That gets them in temporarily while they are investigated.

The carrier bringing them in without the correct documents gets fined £2,000 per head plus can also be hit for detention and repatriation costs. Those costs are not to return them to France if it's found they are from China - it's the costs all the way back home!!!

At the time I was dealing with it I was being told they had spoken perfect English until they arrived into the UK.

We solved it (and were accused of being racist) by making photocopies of their passports/documents at check in. These were all put into a large envelope and travelled on the aircraft with the crew.
At this end I was first in the door and took the envelope which I handed to border control.
This firstly proved that they did have the correct documents and so the company couldn't be fined/hit for other costs.
Secondly border force could identify them immediately and refuse entry.

If they were genuine asylum seekers they could have entered on the documents they held and then claimed asylum.
Problem is those same documents proved that they were not at any risk in the country of origin.
The fact they'd destroyed them to lie about country of origin and to attempt an asylum claim was more than enough evidence to immediately refuse them entry.
 

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Do I mean it? Absolutely, I don’t know them yet they are here to steal m pension. Anybody who is a drain on our economy & threatens the pension I have earned for nearly fifty years can drown with my blessing.
Would that include all the British people that contribute nothing to society but leech off it?
 

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Adding to my already lengthy bit above....

They disposed of the documents by flushing them down the aircraft toilet :)

No one is going looking for them :)
 

derek kelly

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Stop benefits to anybody who has not contributed, the workshy will soon find employment to pay for their cigs & booze.
I am already pissed off that I should have been receiving my state pension in October next year but now have to wait another two years, Bev should have received hers nearly two years ago but has another four years to wait but dirty workshy scum can pump out kids right left & centre & claim ADHD benefits when in many cases the kids just need a good slap.
A friend has recently retired from the DSS & some of the tales she has told us from a womanwith a cushion up her dress demanding maternity benefits to couples coming in independently claiming the other has run off with their giro & left them with no money, absolute scum who have no place in decent society.
 

Pow-Lo

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Stop benefits to anybody who has not contributed, the workshy will soon find employment to pay for their cigs & booze.
I am already pissed off that I should have been receiving my state pension in October next year but now have to wait another two years, Bev should have received hers nearly two years ago but has another four years to wait but dirty workshy scum can pump out kids right left & centre & claim ADHD benefits when in many cases the kids just need a good slap.
A friend has recently retired from the DSS & some of the tales she has told us from a womanwith a cushion up her dress demanding maternity benefits to couples coming in independently claiming the other has run off with their giro & left them with no money, absolute scum who have no place in decent society.
Does she have big tits?
 
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