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slim63

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. I don’t agree with what half of them do but everyone deserves a fair trial.

I agree & that's also what the law states but the reality is very different, its a complete lottery & no such thing as a fair trial exists
 

andyBeaker

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I agree & that's also what the law states but the reality is very different, its a complete lottery & no such thing as a fair trial exists
I take it you were found guilty then??

:D
 

Pow-Lo

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Do they? Really? In these days of DNA evidence & cctv footage & mobile phone triangulation, sometimes it is so clear cut that a trial is a waste of time & money.
Yes, even when it's clear cut that they're stonewall guilty. For a start, other offences may come to light. Aside from that, once the judge has passed verdict, they can take into account previous offences when passing sentence. And it's not as if evidence has never, ever, ever been planted to make an innocent party guilty.
Without wishing to sound like a snowflake, if the right to a fair trial is taken away then we might as well go back to mob rule and vigilantes.
 

Cougar377

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We’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I have a fair bit of experience with these people and they’re certainly not thick. What you’re describing to me sounds like a stereo-typical ‘very senior person’ who doesn’t consider you worth listening to. That’s why he/she employs a secretary/PA and that’s their job. They’re more interested in how much money he/she’s going to make on their next big case and how big a house/car/yacht it’ll buy them.
Not thick at all, mate. Just ignorant and no common sense.

Yep, so have I. In the 3 years that I was involved in supporting and training them and their staff I've spoken to hundreds, both on the phone and face to face. I don't doubt that many of them do a fair job in their "natural environment", but when it comes to ordinary everyday stuff they punch well below their weight.

Just a handful of examples....

A barrister once explained to me that only Porsches were rear wheeled drive as the engine was mounted in the back.

I once spent a "pleasant" lunchtime at one practice trying to explain to a solicitor how a motorcyle was perfectly safe when moving. She couldn't get her head around the "physics" and was convinced that they were uncontrollable due to the lack of wheels.

Spent ages trying to fault find a backup issue at one practice only to discover it was failing because the senior partner insisted that all PC's AND the server were switched off at night (fire prevention). But it was OK to leave the external tape system powered up "because that backs up the server".

I recall too many solictors who would just switch off their PC's at the wall because they couldn't understand why they needed to log out first.

The scores of 3.5" disk drives that I've had to replace due to them wedging discs in the wrong way round. Never had this problem with secretaries.

When we first introduced remote access support, the number of solictors who had major hissy fits because "I'm pointing at the screen, you should be able to see my finger".

The number of solicitors who forced Microsoft Word onto their legal secretaries, when their preferred word processing software was Wordperfect. Secretaries loved Wordperfect, because they could do everything without ever taking their hands off the keyboard. Practice after practice ditched it in favour of Word for one reason only, because it was cheaper....none of them listened to their secretaries. We ran a massive campaign to try to educate firms yet it was ignored and at least one large law firm in London tried to sue us because we'd failed to explain to them what a hit in productivity it would be while their staff struggled with Word and using it with a mouse.

All solictors/lawyers/barristers, etc. were fully trained, together with their staff. Our company policy was to sell the software cheap but tie them to an expensive annual training contract which stipulated that staff were fully trained in software and hardware use...and retrained on each new release version. In contrast to the legal eagles, the vast majority of the legal secretaries were a doddle to train and support....despite the fact that many of them were a generation older than most lawyers, etc.
 

derek kelly

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A tale once related to me by an old colleague, a Barrister visited a high profile client at Ford Prison, when he came to get in his car he couldn’t open the driver’s door, a Prison Officer pointed out that the passenger side front window was three quarters open, the Barrister replied “that’s no bloody use to me, I’m the driver not a bloody passenger”
 

T.C

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Now you all know why after 40+ years I have now got out of the legal profession both enforcement and civil (y)

Makes me wonder how I survived so long?
 
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