You'll Hate this Pensioners

Minkey · 25/4/19

It seems some people are calling for pensioners to have any benefits they get to be abolished and the money given to the young. I think they are forgetting that pensioners have worked all their lives and have paid their taxes and national insurance, they are also forgetting that one day they will want to retire.

Maybe it is just me they don't like as they have already added 6 years to the time I need to work before I can retire??

Centaur · 25/4/19

Note that this is pensioner peers, who can top up their income by £300 per day when they wish, who are saying pensioners are well off. W*nkers.

Lee337 · 25/4/19

I fully expect the Govt. to reduce the amount of state pension by the amount you receive in private pension at some point, especially now they've introduced the Workplace Pension. I just hope it's not before i get to pension age. I suspect it might be different for my nephews & nieces though.

Centaur · 25/4/19

Lee337 said:
I fully expect the Govt. to reduce the amount of state pension by the amount you receive in private pension at some point, especially now they've introduced the Workplace Pension. I just hope it's not before i get to pension age. I suspect it might be different for my nephews & nieces though.

State pension for most of us has been earned by NIC. I contributed for 50 years!

andyBeaker · 25/4/19

I absolutely get that something needs to change - people are living longer and the demographic has and continues to change meaning there will be an increasing number of pensioners in the foreseeable future.

However, it is just wrong to take away from those that have contributed all their lives.

I am pretty sure every generation says it but.....some youngsters today seem to think the world owes them a living. They want it all,and they want it now.

We saved like crazy to buy our first house, had hand me down furniture, didn't even have a tv for the first year. Foreign holidays were but a dream. You work hard, pay your dues and get your just desserts.

There are a lot of young people around here who do labouring/gardening for minimum (or less no doubt) wages, but are doing something for themselves. Good on them.

If you don't put it in, why should you expect to get it out.

I will exclude those that cannot work due to disability.

Makes my blood boil.

Squag1 · 25/4/19

They doubled the contributions for state pension in a budget a few years ago.
It was a Labour minister!!!!

If I have saved and done without to have a private pension why should my state pension entitlement be reduced. I paid for it for all those years.

Same going on with health service. Those who have insurance are the baddies. If everyone stopped insurance the already failed system would collapse. Private hospitals take pressure off the system.

Health in a shambles already. Irish docs n nurses going abroad due to money AND conditions. Foreign docs n nurses coming in.

I had to explain several times what my complaint was to a Chinese doc. Not sure she still understood.

derek kelly · 25/4/19

If you put your savings in a bank & that bank gets robbed, the robbers face a lengthy jail sentence when caught.
How can the Government take away a pension that I have paid for?

Squag1 · 25/4/19

derek kelly said:
If you put your savings in a bank & that bank gets robbed, the robbers face a lengthy jail sentence when caught.
How can the Government take away a pension that I have paid for?

Because we cannot get organised and stop them. There was a grey march here a few years ago (can't remember issue

) but they backed off. But I think they got revenge another way.

slim63 · 25/4/19

I paid in fully from the age of 16 until recently only to be told my contributions are not up to date & I will not be eligible for a full state pension unless I top them up

three + years on I am still waiting for conformation of where & when I supposedly missed payments & how much the discrepancy is

I get virtually no benefits despite all the taxes I have paid & now they decide I wont get a pension either, well they take that idea & shove it where the sun don't shine, they will never get another penny out of me & I hope to live to be 100 just to spite the useless money grabbing bastards

andyBeaker · 25/4/19

slim63 said:
I paid in fully from the age of 16 until recently only to be told my contributions are not up to date & I will not be eligible for a full state pension unless I top them up three + years on I am still waiting for conformation of where & when I supposedly missed payments & how much the discrepancy is

I get virtually no benefits despite all the taxes I have paid & now they decide I wont get a pension either, well they take that idea & shove it where the sun don't shine, they will never get another penny out of me & I hope to live to be 100 just to spite the useless money grabbing bastards

Take a deep breath and cover any shortfall...likely to be the best investment you will ever make.

slim63 · 25/4/19

andyBeaker said:
Take a deep breath and cover any shortfall...likely to be the best investment you will ever make.

I would have well before now if they would tell me how much, now after 3 years of asking without answer they can stick it & I will get everything out of the state I can for as long as I can

Squag1 · 25/4/19

slim63 said:
I would have well before now if they would tell me how much, now after 3 years of asking without answer they can stick it & I will get everything out of the state I can for as long as I can

Ombudsman. Go for it.
Get your own money back

slim63 · 25/4/19

Squag1 said:
Ombudsman. Go for it.
Get your own money back

I didn't know I could, thanks mate will look into that

derek kelly · 25/4/19

A couple of years after leaving the army, brother in law got a job as a Postman, after his marriage broke up he developed a condition called body dysmorphia & became withdrawn & packed in work, he is now 61 & still living with his parents (he moved back in after marriage break up). He has just started drawing his Post Office pension, £129 per week, all his other benefits have now stopped, personally I wouldn’t have an issue with this but a guy he plays bowls with & is five years older than brother in law & has never worked is still drawing £420 per week in benefits.

Squag1 · 25/4/19

slim63 said:
I didn't know I could, thanks mate will look into that

https://www.pensions-ombudsman.org.uk

Squag1 · 25/4/19

slim63 said:
I didn't know I could, thanks mate will look into that

I'm not just goodlooking

Lumpy will vouch for that!!

Squag1 · 25/4/19

derek kelly said:
A couple of years after leaving the army, brother in law got a job as a Postman, after his marriage broke up he developed a condition called body dysmorphia & became withdrawn & packed in work, he is now 61 & still living with his parents (he moved back in after marriage break up). He has just started drawing his Post Office pension, £129 per week, all his other benefits have now stopped, personally I wouldn’t have an issue with this but a guy he plays bowls with & is five years older than brother in law & has never worked is still drawing £420 per week in benefits.

Big mistake working....

richardgore · 26/4/19

Basically it's just a political thing. At the last election Labour targeted the young voters. They used social media to very great effect (and very little cost). Lesson leaned by the Tories, who are trying to woo young voters ways from the alternatives. So they will move money from one group (pensioners) to another (youngsters) to try and swing support.

However, not being able to see beyond the end of their noses, they ignore the fact that it's only recently that pensioners got a better deal (triple lock, winter fuel allowance etc.) and that anyone who has existing entitlements reduced will vote with their feet.

So in a few more years time, someone will realise that they've alienated another group of the electorate and move to restore some of their rights, in the hope that they will win back their support.

Repeat ad nausem.

Lee337 · 28/4/19

You forgot 'shaft civil servants to pay for it all'

Minkey · 28/4/19

The Civil servants do a good job and the retired ones I know all have a good pension. Come to think of it a lot of my older friends got their pensions at 60, bus pass etc like wise. I have notice that a lot of places that used to offer reduced prices for the over 60's have now increased it to 65. How long before free prescriptions etc follow suit?

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