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Hard to believe this stuff still goes on in 2018

Stevebrooke

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If this isn't right it's also not right that there are women-only associations and events. There are women-only gyms, charity runs, and men cannot join the WI. Sexism in all forms is wrong but it seems only women whinge about it.
 

derek kelly

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Don’t see the problem really, if it’s traditionally a men only event then why change it, women could always form their own seperate committee & have their own awards.
 

Cougar377

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Maybe they'd stand a better chance of getting in if they had some young, fit female golfers.

Just saying.... :couch:
 

andyBeaker

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If this isn't right it's also not right that there are women-only associations and events. There are women-only gyms, charity runs, and men cannot join the WI. Sexism in all forms is wrong but it seems only women whinge about it.
I suspect the difference in this case is that it is 'men only' as there are strippers, blue comedians, etc.

Either way they are making themselves look antiquated and ridiculous.
 

Jaws

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Disagree .. What I find hard to believe is that people make a fuss over such things..
Every one wants equality ...... right up to the moment it is given..... Then suddenly they do not want equality but only SOME parts of it
I had the misfortune to work with someone who used a wheelchair .. They bitched and moaned about everything, eventually getting pretty much their own way....
Later on that year the staff restaurant was revamped and that meant full wheelchair access to the counter.
Suddenly matey had to line up with the plebs.. He kicked off again, but it was pointed out this was equality..He took then decided to take it to tribunal and lost, then tried to make life a misery for all who used the restaurant .. He ended up being more or less sent to coventry by one and all.
No idea what the final outcome was as I got a promotion and moved to another site
 

Stevebrooke

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Disagree .. What I find hard to believe is that people make a fuss over such things..
Every one wants equality ...... right up to the moment it is given..... Then suddenly they do not want equality but only SOME parts of it

Which I think echoes my post regarding the state pension. Everyone wants equality unless it disadvantaged them.
 

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Looking at it another way, and this is an assumption on my behalf - if these farmers are excluding ladies so they can ogle naked young women they are a pathetic bunch who are so out of touch it is unbelievable.

If there is another reason it is odd that they haven't come out and said what it is....
 

derek kelly

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Looking at it another way, and this is an assumption on my behalf - if these farmers are excluding ladies so they can ogle naked young women they are a pathetic bunch who are so out of touch it is unbelievable.

If there is another reason it is odd that they haven't come out and said what it is....
Because it is an age old tradition of theirs & they don’t want it to change.
 

Jaws

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Looking at it another way, and this is an assumption on my behalf - if these farmers are excluding ladies so they can ogle naked young women they are a pathetic bunch who are so out of touch it is unbelievable.

If there is another reason it is odd that they haven't come out and said what it is....
For most red blooded men that is enough .. Why oh why has everybody GOT to be in touch ?
Personally, in this day and age, the last thing I want to be is 'in touch' with pathetic loud mouthed snowflakes or left wing do gooders who are, in most cases, KAKFAs
They are fucking this country ( and others ) completely
 

andyBeaker

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For most red blooded men that is enough .. Why oh why has everybody GOT to be in touch ?
Personally, in this day and age, the last thing I want to be is 'in touch' with pathetic loud mouthed snowflakes or left wing do gooders who are, in most cases, KAKFAs
They are fucking this country ( and others ) completely

I hope I am a reasonably 'red blooded' male, but I find it impossible to see anything good in 'gentleman's evenings'.

Embarrassing.

Wouldn't be seen dead at one. Or a strip club. Or a pole dancing club.

Can't see that as being a 'snowflake', just someone with decent moral standards and a bit of respect to the fairer sex.
 

Jaws

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Wouldn't be seen dead at one. Or a strip club. Or a pole dancing club.

Can't see that as being a 'snowflake', just someone with decent moral standards and a bit of respect to the fairer sex.


Actually neither would I, never been to a strip club in my life..
However..................
It has NOTHING to do with morality .
I gather you condemn woman who work at such places as being possessed of low moral standards ? Although I have never been to a strip club I know ( knew ) a few ladies who have worked as strippers and dancers... In fact one of my neighbours worked as an 'exotic' dancer and she is def NOT a lady of loose morals. They do the job mostly because it is good pay, nowt more

Your words do not suggest you respect the fairer sex at all, as you do not respect their life choices but wish to impose your own

Look up the meaning of snowflake...... and ask yourself if your words could not have been spoken by one.
 

andyBeaker

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Actually neither would I, never been to a strip club in my life..
However..................
It has NOTHING to do with morality .
I gather you condemn woman who work at such places as being possessed of low moral standards ? Although I have never been to a strip club I know ( knew ) a few ladies who have worked as strippers and dancers... In fact one of my neighbours worked as an 'exotic' dancer and she is def NOT a lady of loose morals. They do the job mostly because it is good pay, nowt more

Your words do not suggest you respect the fairer sex at all, as you do not respect their life choices but wish to impose your own

Look up the meaning of snowflake...... and ask yourself if your words could not have been spoken by one.

John, where did I 'condemn the women who work in such places as being possessed of low moral standards'?

I didn't.

I do condemn the 'men' who frequent them.

The 'performers' wouldn't exist if these 'men' didn't create demand. And don't think for one minute that the average performer thinks 'I want to be a stripper' when they consider career choices. Many are forced into it, either by threat or by financial need.

As for the snowflake jibe, I am not going to dignify that with a response.
 

Jaws

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The 'performers' wouldn't exist if these 'men' didn't create demand. And don't think for one minute that the average performer thinks 'I want to be a stripper' when they consider career choices. Many are forced into it, either by threat or by financial need.
And without the men, where would the job the women choose to do be .

Very few are forced into club life, contrary to what you may read in papers... prostitution yes, bur=t dancers no.
To start with it is a skill that not all ( in fact very few ) possess .. all the girls I knew actively sort out the work, and not one regretted the career move
 

andyBeaker

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And without the men, where would the job the women choose to do be .

Very few are forced into club life, contrary to what you may read in papers... prostitution yes, bur=t dancers no.
To start with it is a skill that not all ( in fact very few ) possess .. all the girls I knew actively sort out the work, and not one regretted the career move
We are going to have to disagree.

Anyway, I am a snowflake apparently.
 

derek kelly

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So was throwing people in the pond to see if they were witches...
Hardly the same thing, the ducking stool was used in the dark ages when people believed that witches held real evil power & dealt with it out of ignorance, lf you let women into a men only club then it’s no longer a men only club & vice versa.
 
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