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andyBeaker

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a soecial thread for the many on here that love throwing stuff around about the BMWs (that they covet) and their drivers (that they admire).

There will be a prize for anything original that is posted.

I'm not holding my breath....

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I have just driven the BMW series 1, two litre sport and I liked it! Obviously I win the prize. (y)
 

andyBeaker

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I have just driven the BMW series 1, two litre sport and I liked it! Obviously I win the prize. (y)
Yes, but you are not telling the total truth are you...the 1 and 2 Series are awful, especially for yhose over 5' 6". And I bet it was a diesel. Well I suppose those used to run of the mill cars think they are great, but in BMW terms they are awful.
 

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Sie haben einen Panzer gekauft? Bist du ein Mitglied des Reiches? !!
 

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And to piss off a German who dislikes the West say to him “Sind Sie Ostern?” As they prefer life under the Russians
 

Jaws

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And to piss off a German who dislikes the West say to him “Sind Sie Ostern?” As they prefer life under the Russians
nein,,,, ich komme aus Augsburg
 

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I drove my 1994 BMW K1100 230 miles last weekend and it was very comfortable.
 

Pow-Lo

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a soecial thread for the many on here that love throwing stuff around about the BMWs (that they covet) and their drivers (that they admire).

There will be a prize for anything original that is posted.

I'm not holding my breath....

:eusa_whistle:

What’s a “soecial thread”? Are you trying to spell ‘special’ or ‘social’?
Yes, but you are not telling the total truth are you...the 1 and 2 Series are awful, especially for yhose over 5' 6". And I bet it was a diesel. Well I suppose those used to run of the mill cars think they are great, but in BMW terms they are awful.
No, they are not awful. I’ve driven a 1 Series and found it particularly agile, particularly on M Sport suspension. And yes, it was a diesel. Very economical and quite grunty.

Mrs P has a 2 Series and she’s well over 5’6”. She loves her car and has zero complaints about it. I have difficulty getting comfortable in the driver’s seat but only because I restrict myself to moving the seat a little further back. I don’t mess with the seat height and tilt because it’s a pain in the derrière to find where I want it to be and an equal nuisance for her to get it back to where she wants it. The seats in my car are fully electric in all planes of motion and there are memory settings, so I don’t have that problem.
 

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What’s a “soecial thread”? Are you trying to spell ‘special’ or ‘social’?

No, they are not awful. I’ve driven a 1 Series and found it particularly agile, particularly on M Sport suspension. And yes, it was a diesel. Very economical and quite grunty.

Mrs P has a 2 Series and she’s well over 5’6”. She loves her car and has zero complaints about it. I have difficulty getting comfortable in the driver’s seat but only because I restrict myself to moving the seat a little further back. I don’t mess with the seat height and tilt because it’s a pain in the derrière to find where I want it to be and an equal nuisance for her to get it back to where she wants it. The seats in my car are fully electric in all planes of motion and there are memory settings, so I don’t have that problem.


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What was once a coveted brand is now the badge of many a sales rep....
 

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I drove my 1994 BMW K1100 230 miles last weekend and it was very comfortable.
Sorry, I was taking about there cars not bikes, which I've had 3, K100rs, R1100s and a K1300s.

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Bikes ;)
 

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What was once a coveted brand is now the badge of many a sales rep....
Yup, 1 and 2 Series attacked that market big time, amazing how many are badge snobs given the chance.

Mondeo and Focus amongst others are a much better bet.
 

Pow-Lo

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Yup, 1 and 2 Series attacked that market big time, amazing how many are badge snobs given the chance.

Mondeo and Focus amongst others are a much better bet.
How on earth can you compare a 1 and 2 Series with a Focus and Mondeo? If you were comparing them with the Fiesta and Focus, respectively, you might have a reasonable point.

One of the boys in my office has a Mondeo and it’s as big as a 5 Series. Ok, the Mondeo is absolutely loaded with kit and they can be bought new with significant discounts, particularly the high end variants. However, it’s just a Ford, which are generally good cars, but will be worth pennies after a few years of ownership.
 

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Yup, 1 and 2 Series attacked that market big time, amazing how many are badge snobs given the chance.

Mondeo and Focus amongst others are a much better bet.

Where the wife works the sales reps are offered an almost base model Audi A4 or a top spec Mondeo with most of the options, and all but one took the Audi. :nusenuse::nusenuse::nusenuse:
 

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How on earth can you compare a 1 and 2 Series with a Focus and Mondeo? If you were comparing them with the Fiesta and Focus, respectively, you might have a reasonable point.

One of the boys in my office has a Mondeo and it’s as big as a 5 Series. Ok, the Mondeo is absolutely loaded with kit and they can be bought new with significant discounts, particularly the high end variants. However, it’s just a Ford, which are generally good cars, but will be worth pennies after a few years of ownership.
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Pound for pound the Fords are better cars and certainly better value than the 1 and 2 Series.

The latter IN MY VIEW are the equivalent of the Mercedes A Class....built to a budget to attack a particular market at a price point, and the Mercedes in particular remains a dismal machine.

I have had a 1 Series and two 2 Series as courtesy cars, both were poor. Particularly the 2 Series cabriolet. No doubt an M1 is fun, but probably for about five minutes like the Mini Cooper S for the same reasons.

The Mondeo has been a class act in the real world from the start...if it had a BMW or Mercedes badge on it it would have got the recognition it deserves...some will argue 'front wheel drive', fair point to a degree but not really in the real world for the average driver, also gives a ton more internal space. PERSONALLY I would rather spend the money on a well appointed Mondeo.
 

Pow-Lo

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Pound for pound the Fords are better cars and certainly better value than the 1 and 2 Series.

The latter IN MY VIEW are the equivalent of the Mercedes A Class....built to a budget to attack a particular market at a price point, and the Mercedes in particular remains a dismal machine.

I have had a 1 Series and two 2 Series as courtesy cars, both were poor. Particularly the 2 Series cabriolet. No doubt an M1 is fun, but probably for about five minutes like the Mini Cooper S for the same reasons.

The Mondeo has been a class act in the real world from the start...if it had a BMW or Mercedes badge on it it would have got the recognition it deserves...some will argue 'front wheel drive', fair point to a degree but not really in the real world for the average driver, also gives a ton more internal space. PERSONALLY I would rather spend the money on a well appointed Mondeo.
Some Fords are better pound for pound that some BMs, but not all. No way would I have any Focus over any 3 Series, nor would I have any Fiesta over any 1 Series. Better value? Maybe if you’re only considering initial outlay but I’m not convinced that’s correct if you look at cost to own over three years. You might pay more for the BMs but you’d get much more of your outlay back at the end of three years of ownership.

The A Class is shite. A chap I know at the gym, his wife has one. He has a go-to mechanic that helps him with his weekend car, an old Alfa 3 litre V6. Anyhoo, his wife’s Merc developed a fault and he asked his mechanic, who subsequently refused to work on it on the basis that he probably wouldn’t be able to fix it as they’re so unreliable.

Back to the 1 and 2 Series. Same as any car, depends what you want it for. If you wanted a small hatchback, are you seriously suggesting you’d pick a Fiesta over a 1 Series? If I was looking for a car that small, I’d more than likely pick a Golf but that’s Focus category. I’m not sure Ford build a comparison to the 2 Series but comparing it to a Mondeo is sheeps and goats. What you say about the Mondeo is fair but you overlook one point, which would be significant for some; the one complaint my mate at work has is that it’s too wide and he struggles on some roads with those bullshit traffic calming narrow points. It’s also a nightmare on narrow country lanes. I have to confess though, I wouldn’t have known about that had he not said. Now he has, I can see it’s enormously wide.

As I’ve said above, Fords are good cars for the money. The longest I’ve ever kept a car is nine years and that was my Sierra XR 4 x 4. Awesome car and I loved her. If I absolutely had to have a Ford today, I’d prolly pick a Kuga as it best suits what I need a car for. However, I’d pick a Hyundai Tucson before a Kuga.
 
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